The art and agony of the tank (split from game thread)

Discussion in 'Kings Rap' started by New Era, Apr 1, 2017.

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  1. Mr. S£im Citrus

    Mr. S£im Citrus That's right, I said it! Staff Member Contributor

    Fair enough. Dirk Nowitzki is still good enough to be the second-best player on a playoff team. If he is serious about coming back next year, Dallas will probably make the playoffs; they may get as high as the sixth seed. In what way does that demonstrate that the Mavericks are "two steps ahead" of Sacramento? If anything, that would just indicate that they are on the dreaded "treadmill," just a slightly better class of treadmill that the Kings have been on. And when Nowitzki inevitably retires, unless they hit it out of the park on only the second lottery pick they've had in a decade in a half, what they're going to have left is Barnes, Noel, their 2017 first round pick, and twelve guys named Jim, and that ain't gonna be enough.

    Oh, I've made no effort to hide my disdain for Noel; I simply don't feel strongly enough about it to waste words arguing over him.

    Okay, I've got to check you on this. First of All™, I didn't say **** about the "bright futures of Skal and Buddy." I don't necessarily think that Labissière and Hield have bright futures. I just think that they'll end up being as good or better than Harrison Barnes which, as I stated in Post #439, has more to do with what I think about Harrison Barnes than it does with what I think about either Skal Labissière or Buddy Hield.

    Second of All, the most amusing part of this exchange to me is the notion that my opinion of Labissière and Hield is informed by some sense of homerific sentimentality, when not only am I not looking at these kids through "Kings colored glasses," I still haven't even made up my mind as to whether or not I'm going to continue to be a Kings fan.
  2. hrdboild

    hrdboild Well-Known Member

    I don't think you have a homeristic sentimentality toward Kings players but a lot of people do. So my reaction to your post was more of a general reaction to so many posts over the years talking up our young players as if they're untouchable and everyone else's as bums. I do this a lot, it's not personal. I kindof reply to the crowd more than individual posters. And I'm half joking with the pseudo-outrage. This really just comes down to our vastly different opinions of how good Noel and Barnes are. I think both are starters on a playoff team and you obviously disagree. Cool. Not a problem. We've found the source of our disagreement. We've also established already that you hate the draft and the concept of tanking in general so I'm not sure why we seem to be spinning around the wheel of futility once more, rehashing an argument we've already had multiple times in the past. I was upset, I got it out of my system, now I feel better. Mostly. Team still sucks tho...
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  3. Mr. S£im Citrus

    Mr. S£im Citrus That's right, I said it! Staff Member Contributor

    Well, even that is a misrepresentation of my opinion, though: it's not that I don't think that Barnes and Noel are good enough to be starters on a playoff team, but you know who else is good enough to be a starter on a playoff team? Tony Snell and JaMychal Green. It's not that I don't think that they're good enough to start on a playoff team, it's that I don't think that they're good enough to be the two best players on a playoff team. I'm not even sure that they're good enough to be two of the three best players on a playoff team.
  4. Kingz19

    Kingz19 Well-Known Member

    Reverse jinx! Dallas is gonna win!
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  5. ockingsfan

    ockingsfan Well-Known Member

    Omg! Dallas just won! :cool:
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  6. c-webb1s#1

    c-webb1s#1 Well-Known Member

    Man those Memphis scrubs were just awful! Thank you Memphis!
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  7. Capt. Factorial

    Capt. Factorial Cantry Member Staff Member Contributor

    So now we're in a weird situation - if we win, we want the Pelicans to win too. We would rather be tied 8-9 with Dallas and have the Pelicans at 10 than be tied 8-9-10 because we could end up at 10 with our natural pick and more easily lose it to Chicago. But if we lose, we want the Pelicans to lose, because we would wrap up the 8 slot in the lottery and we'd rather have the Pelicans tied at 9-10 than 10 outright.
  8. Kingz19

    Kingz19 Well-Known Member

    So now a NOLA loss coupled with a Kings loss can put the flip with Dallas and NO giving us a shot at getting 8 and 9

    No Collison or Lawson..Clips fully loaded.
  9. ockingsfan

    ockingsfan Well-Known Member

    Now that Dallas won, the kings absolutely need to lose tonight!

    Otherwise, they would be in 3 way tie for 8,9,10 with Dallas and N.O. With a win!
  10. andjel

    andjel Well-Known Member

    Actually that makes it slightly less must lose since we have to "beat" two teams in coin toss to end 10th.
    It is still must lose (or NO win) to wait for lottery peacefully.
  11. ockingsfan

    ockingsfan Well-Known Member

    It's definitely must lose, we can lose and be #8 or win and possibly get #10 in a coin toss with Dallas and NO.

    I would definitely sleep better sitting at #8 at the end of tonight! :)
  12. Kingsfan23

    Kingsfan23 Well-Known Member

    Dallas winning is big, because they share our needs in PG. less concerned about Wolves as they have PG/SF
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  13. ockingsfan

    ockingsfan Well-Known Member

    YES! Utah just beat the Spurs!

    Must win for Clippers tonight!
  14. c-webb1s#1

    c-webb1s#1 Well-Known Member

    They might be looking for a PG. If the rumors are true they'll be looking to deal Rubio this summer. Plus, they might just grab the best talent the feel is available regardless of needs.
  15. steelevt

    steelevt Well-Known Member

    Sigh...1 loss after the all star break and we would be hoping for a 6/7/8 coin flip. Instead we are hoping to win a 8/9/10 coin flip where if we lose there's a possibility of also losing the pick. Kings fans have got to be the most loyal fan base. We all know what has to be done despite the front office not doing it yet here we are. Still standing by our team. o_O
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  16. Jimbob

    Jimbob Well-Known Member

    Love you Dallas. Great team, great organisation.;)
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  17. Bosnian Diehard

    Bosnian Diehard Well-Known Member

    No, a loss tonight automatically gets us the 8th pick, no coin flip necessary.
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  18. steelevt

    steelevt Well-Known Member

    But a win + NO loss would force the coin flip
  19. White_Chocolate

    White_Chocolate Well-Known Member

    Well we lost haha
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  20. ockingsfan

    ockingsfan Well-Known Member

    Not sure if it is better for N.O. to win and have the #10 spot outright or lose tonight and N.O. would be in a tie for #9 & 10. ???

    Being in a 9/10 tie, gives N.O. more ping pong balls and they may wind up at #10 after the tie break anyways.
  21. parker

    parker Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised new orleans didn't continue to figure out how Cousins and Davis could fit together rather than tanking. They were playing well for a couple of weeks.
  22. White_Chocolate

    White_Chocolate Well-Known Member

    Same here. They would be better served to see if their core duo is good rather than losing seeing as they gave us their first.
  23. 206Fan

    206Fan Well-Known Member

    YAY, another year of getting another mid/late lotto pick. At least we have 2 this year. oh well. 8th and 10... i guess...............
  24. theclash4u5

    theclash4u5 Well-Known Member

    If we would have lost @ Minnesota, we would have been tied for the 6th pick with the Knicks. Oh well.
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