Mavs @ Kings Game Thread
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Another solid game by 'REKE! I think he is gonna make it to 20/5/5 !! I hate losing but hopefully it will pay off draft day. This game is another example of why we desperatly need a defensive presence in the paint. There is just nobody home. A big hole in the donut. A vacuum, a void, whatever you want to call it. Our center position is not effective defensively. I know that Petrie knows what the problem is. I don't know if he has a way to fix it other than the draft. I don't know if we can get a quality big to come to Sacramento. Maybe in a trade but as a free agent it is hard. It is a tough sell to get players to come to Sac. I don't know how the Kings turn this around unless it is through the draft!
We need to get players around Tyreke! He is our star. We need to build around him! It would be terrible if Tyreke ends up having a career like Mitch Richmond did in Sacramento. Playing out of his mind all by himself. I wish Petrie luck in this draft. This draft will be the most important draft for the Kings in many years. They MUST have a big man that can defend and be effective in the paint. This draft is supposed to be deep with big men. Lets hope for a miracle like Tyreke to occur in the form of a front court player! Can Lightening strike TWICE ??
We need to get players around Tyreke! He is our star. We need to build around him! It would be terrible if Tyreke ends up having a career like Mitch Richmond did in Sacramento. Playing out of his mind all by himself. I wish Petrie luck in this draft. This draft will be the most important draft for the Kings in many years. They MUST have a big man that can defend and be effective in the paint. This draft is supposed to be deep with big men. Lets hope for a miracle like Tyreke to occur in the form of a front court player! Can Lightening strike TWICE ??
Note however that in the West you cna be .500 and still end up 10 games out of the playoffs.
With a good offseaosn I see us making huge strides next year, but to go from where we're at to the playoffs in one season would literally be a +25win type turnaround, which puts you a long ways up the All Time lists. Probably not that barring both a stud rookie and a stud FA, but we'll be better, possibly a lot better, and may even still be talking playoffs at the All Star break next year. Just take a little time to get over that hump (and unfortunately running right into the owners/players angling for armageddon and a lost season in 11/12).
With a good offseaosn I see us making huge strides next year, but to go from where we're at to the playoffs in one season would literally be a +25win type turnaround, which puts you a long ways up the All Time lists. Probably not that barring both a stud rookie and a stud FA, but we'll be better, possibly a lot better, and may even still be talking playoffs at the All Star break next year. Just take a little time to get over that hump (and unfortunately running right into the owners/players angling for armageddon and a lost season in 11/12).
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You never know. Some of the upper echelon teams are getting older (Spurs and Suns, even the Mavs) and no one knows how Houston will do with Yao (possibly) making a come back.
In my mind, the playoff guarantees for next year are
OKC
Denver
Portland (Though this really depends on which big men come back and how they produce)
L.A.
Dallas (Unless Kidd's legs fall off, which is a possibility, or Dirk's elbow gets eaten again)
Utah (Though if Boozer leaves, I wouldn't be too sure of their strength)
Then you have play-off borderliners
San Antonio (Tempted to put them in the above category but they are quite simply not the same team they were before. Duncan's getting older and thus their team is declining. In my mind, they are now kind of like the Kings after Webb returned from the knee explosion)
Phoenix (Yet another team I was tempted to put above. This all kind of depends on Amare. If he comes back, which he probably will, they are most likely in. Still waiting for Nash to hit the old person wall and decline
. Hill is also older and you never know what may happen.)
Houston (This is all very dependent on Yao. If he comes back and plays like noting happened, they are in. If he plays like a ghost, they're out and most likely free fall. I know, team ball, yadda yadda. I'm just not convinced that, if push came to shove, they could replicate this season.)
Memphis (Hmmm. I'm still really not convinced that they're all that great. Zach Randolph is they key to them. If he pulls off another season like this one, they have a chance [though they're still lacking some talent]. If he falls apart like he has everywhere else, then they're back in the cellar again, albeit this time with OJ Mayo and Marc Gasol)
New Orleans (This is the BIG wild card. They'll have CP3 back and hopefully healthy. David West is good and Okafor is a nice player who is payed wayyyyyy too much. Thornton is a nice young player. The interesting thing will be to see what they do with Collison. Do they keep him as a back-up for CP3 in case Paul gets hurt again? Or do they trade him? They also have to deal with the conundrum at the 3-spot. Peja is hurt almost 90% of the time and overpaid, but the rest of the small forwards they have suck. In order to be competitive, they need to improve on this spot [hey Hornets, you can have Nocioni]. They also have a draft pick that should help them.)
After that, you have a handful of other teams who are all at different degrees of rebuilding and/or implosion:
Sacramento (We are most likely the best of the worst {The Clips have a better record than us but considering how we've beat them 3 out of 4 times, I'm ranking us ahead of them}. We have our Star now and if Reke gets his shot down, we can wreak a considerable amount of havoc in the West. Give us a nice strong defensive big and another year of experience and you never know what could happen.)
Clips (They'll have a good pick, tons of money, last year's number one pick debuting, an All-Star Center, Eric Gordon, Baron Davis on his occasional good days. On the other hand, they're the Clippers.)
Golden State (Honestly, I don't know where to begin. I guess they have a few good young pieces. Curry is a nice young talent at the PG spot. Biedrins is tough player, not too impactful either way and injured like crazy seemingly all the time. Ellis can score but not much else. Magette can also score. Everyone else can also score, except for Turiaf, who just kinda runs into people. They also have Anthony Randolph, who's been too injured to make much of an impression one way or the other. If they have Nelly as their coach, they will most likely continue to small ball their way into oblivion. If they have someone else, who knows. They'll also have a good pick which they'll probably use on a swingman.)
Minnesota (They have a few nice pieces. Al Jeffy is a force inside when it comes to the low-post but generally doesn't do too much else. Kevin Love is a beast. He rebounds and is skilled, if not a bit short. Jonny Flynn is a nice young PG that would most likely look nice next to Evan Turner. Ramon Sessions, our apparent savior last season, is not as good as we once thought. Everyone else is... bad. And their coaching sucks as well.)
Everything is dependent on our moves in the offseason. If we get a nice quality big (I don't mean Mikki Moore) and Reke develops, I can see us sneaking in their as a 8th seed. It'll be interesting either way.
In my mind, the playoff guarantees for next year are
OKC
Denver
Portland (Though this really depends on which big men come back and how they produce)
L.A.
Dallas (Unless Kidd's legs fall off, which is a possibility, or Dirk's elbow gets eaten again)
Utah (Though if Boozer leaves, I wouldn't be too sure of their strength)
Then you have play-off borderliners
San Antonio (Tempted to put them in the above category but they are quite simply not the same team they were before. Duncan's getting older and thus their team is declining. In my mind, they are now kind of like the Kings after Webb returned from the knee explosion)
Phoenix (Yet another team I was tempted to put above. This all kind of depends on Amare. If he comes back, which he probably will, they are most likely in. Still waiting for Nash to hit the old person wall and decline
. Hill is also older and you never know what may happen.)Houston (This is all very dependent on Yao. If he comes back and plays like noting happened, they are in. If he plays like a ghost, they're out and most likely free fall. I know, team ball, yadda yadda. I'm just not convinced that, if push came to shove, they could replicate this season.)
Memphis (Hmmm. I'm still really not convinced that they're all that great. Zach Randolph is they key to them. If he pulls off another season like this one, they have a chance [though they're still lacking some talent]. If he falls apart like he has everywhere else, then they're back in the cellar again, albeit this time with OJ Mayo and Marc Gasol)
New Orleans (This is the BIG wild card. They'll have CP3 back and hopefully healthy. David West is good and Okafor is a nice player who is payed wayyyyyy too much. Thornton is a nice young player. The interesting thing will be to see what they do with Collison. Do they keep him as a back-up for CP3 in case Paul gets hurt again? Or do they trade him? They also have to deal with the conundrum at the 3-spot. Peja is hurt almost 90% of the time and overpaid, but the rest of the small forwards they have suck. In order to be competitive, they need to improve on this spot [hey Hornets, you can have Nocioni]. They also have a draft pick that should help them.)
After that, you have a handful of other teams who are all at different degrees of rebuilding and/or implosion:
Sacramento (We are most likely the best of the worst {The Clips have a better record than us but considering how we've beat them 3 out of 4 times, I'm ranking us ahead of them}. We have our Star now and if Reke gets his shot down, we can wreak a considerable amount of havoc in the West. Give us a nice strong defensive big and another year of experience and you never know what could happen.)
Clips (They'll have a good pick, tons of money, last year's number one pick debuting, an All-Star Center, Eric Gordon, Baron Davis on his occasional good days. On the other hand, they're the Clippers.)
Golden State (Honestly, I don't know where to begin. I guess they have a few good young pieces. Curry is a nice young talent at the PG spot. Biedrins is tough player, not too impactful either way and injured like crazy seemingly all the time. Ellis can score but not much else. Magette can also score. Everyone else can also score, except for Turiaf, who just kinda runs into people. They also have Anthony Randolph, who's been too injured to make much of an impression one way or the other. If they have Nelly as their coach, they will most likely continue to small ball their way into oblivion. If they have someone else, who knows. They'll also have a good pick which they'll probably use on a swingman.)
Minnesota (They have a few nice pieces. Al Jeffy is a force inside when it comes to the low-post but generally doesn't do too much else. Kevin Love is a beast. He rebounds and is skilled, if not a bit short. Jonny Flynn is a nice young PG that would most likely look nice next to Evan Turner. Ramon Sessions, our apparent savior last season, is not as good as we once thought. Everyone else is... bad. And their coaching sucks as well.)
Everything is dependent on our moves in the offseason. If we get a nice quality big (I don't mean Mikki Moore) and Reke develops, I can see us sneaking in their as a 8th seed. It'll be interesting either way.
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Nice post. However, I think we are still two years away. It took OKC until Durant's 3rd season to be a real impact team and I have a feeling we are on a similar time line now. We'll have the chance to potentially get an impact big in the draft and another good player via free agency or a trade using our cap space, but I still think 30+ wins next year (35-37 range) and then playoffs the next year.
my point of view is different, if the coach won't waste the summer and teach them some defance, we will be a 500 team.
maybe i am wrong but we were almost 500 untill mid december or so.
we can do it, there were a lot ups and downs, but next year we will have some players who can do it, who grew up the whole season and will come more focused and adjust for next season.
it took the team time to adjust, to understand who is the leader, to stop the ego fights and for each player to know his place in the routine, wich i hope won't be like this year.
Tyreke is gonna be a monster next year, i say it here 25+ points a game.
maybe Omri, Donte, Haws and JT will work out a bit more in the jym and will come back stronger and would be able to make more stops under the baskets. and maybe PW will start to trust his players and won't change the system every seconed day.
as indeviduals there is a huge potencial they just need to work as a team a bit more.
maybe i am wrong but we were almost 500 untill mid december or so.
we can do it, there were a lot ups and downs, but next year we will have some players who can do it, who grew up the whole season and will come more focused and adjust for next season.
it took the team time to adjust, to understand who is the leader, to stop the ego fights and for each player to know his place in the routine, wich i hope won't be like this year.
Tyreke is gonna be a monster next year, i say it here 25+ points a game.
maybe Omri, Donte, Haws and JT will work out a bit more in the jym and will come back stronger and would be able to make more stops under the baskets. and maybe PW will start to trust his players and won't change the system every seconed day.
as indeviduals there is a huge potencial they just need to work as a team a bit more.