Let's discuss new guys (from June 2016)
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You don't have enough knowledge or access to information to draw this conclusion and to think you can is naive. Teams that win in the 30s need to get the best and most impactful players and figure out the rest afterwards. The Kings are not in a position to draft for need, and needs can be addressed with trades (Koufos, Gay) and free agent signings.
Back in the day, like 4-5 years ago, these players used to make the rounds, we'd get workout videos as they'd make their stops, and more assessments from the involved parties. Back then I used to get more into analysis and projection because there was more to base opinions off. We don't get that anymore and accordingly there is just not enough data to form solid opinions.
I liked Emmanuel Mudiay last year. But one thing I could not ascertain that became an issue as a rookie is that he did NOT have blow-by speed on the perimeter. That's a problem projecting stardom. If a guard has an iffy shot he BETTER have breakdown ability to get to the rim. Mudiay has great size and good handles and solid fundamentals, but his quickness AND perimeter jumper are MIA (missing action). This is difficult to determine based off a few highlight clips.
This brings me to Wade Baldwin. Great size, great length, but difficult to gauge speed and quickness and turning corner. Since we decided to pass on this guy, I think it could be related to that lack of burst of speed....and AGAIN this is really difficult to determine just watching highlight videos (steal rate is a good forecast of speed and anticipation, and I know the scouts like to look at this, so this can be helpful to quantify speed). Anyway I think we have to defer to the guys who see them up close.
In Vlade I trust.
P.S. And we didn't screw up last years draft.
P.P.S. And trading Marco the Brick-o for a 1st rounder and who was due 2 years and $13M was the exact opposite of a screw-up!!!
Back in the day, like 4-5 years ago, these players used to make the rounds, we'd get workout videos as they'd make their stops, and more assessments from the involved parties. Back then I used to get more into analysis and projection because there was more to base opinions off. We don't get that anymore and accordingly there is just not enough data to form solid opinions.
I liked Emmanuel Mudiay last year. But one thing I could not ascertain that became an issue as a rookie is that he did NOT have blow-by speed on the perimeter. That's a problem projecting stardom. If a guard has an iffy shot he BETTER have breakdown ability to get to the rim. Mudiay has great size and good handles and solid fundamentals, but his quickness AND perimeter jumper are MIA (missing action). This is difficult to determine based off a few highlight clips.
This brings me to Wade Baldwin. Great size, great length, but difficult to gauge speed and quickness and turning corner. Since we decided to pass on this guy, I think it could be related to that lack of burst of speed....and AGAIN this is really difficult to determine just watching highlight videos (steal rate is a good forecast of speed and anticipation, and I know the scouts like to look at this, so this can be helpful to quantify speed). Anyway I think we have to defer to the guys who see them up close.
In Vlade I trust.
P.S. And we didn't screw up last years draft.
P.P.S. And trading Marco the Brick-o for a 1st rounder and who was due 2 years and $13M was the exact opposite of a screw-up!!!
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Everyone will say Richardson is bold offensively. He will look to get his points if he has the ball. He can shoot off the dribble, he can spot shoot, he's got deep range, he can move off screens or curl, he can stop on a dime and shoot in your face.
That's enough to get some bench minutes.
His size is good and so is his length. So some of the prowess will translate to the NBA.
That's enough to get some bench minutes.
His size is good and so is his length. So some of the prowess will translate to the NBA.
Stop your hate. This is professional sports. Nobody is 'given' anything. He earned his draft position based on the competition. Earned his starting role based on the competition put in front of him. Let's move on from this tired narrative.
The team needs to go out and find a better 2 guard if they're unhappy.
The team needs to go out and find a better 2 guard if they're unhappy.
When watching Bogdanovic play, I get the same feeling as when I watched a younger Ginobili play... anyone else feel that way?
He's got that same flair, that same style where you don't know if he's gonna pull up for a ridiculous three, drive hard to the hole, or make a great pass. He's not the passer Ginobili is, but he certainly keeps his head up and makes some impressive passes regardless. Definitely has some craftiness to his game. He might be our SG of the future, I like this kid.
He's got that same flair, that same style where you don't know if he's gonna pull up for a ridiculous three, drive hard to the hole, or make a great pass. He's not the passer Ginobili is, but he certainly keeps his head up and makes some impressive passes regardless. Definitely has some craftiness to his game. He might be our SG of the future, I like this kid.
Unless Marquese Chriss turns into a perennial all star, I think we got a good deal turning it into Big George, Skal and Bodgan. Vlade said they've followed Georgios for a long time so I'm going to take his word for it for now. Skal has a big upside and Bodgan will at least be a very solid player.
Isaiah at #59 is a steal so we did better than what the media will ever give us credit for. No instant big name hype gratification, but solid work in the long run considering Bogdan will essentially be our 2017 draft pick.
Isaiah at #59 is a steal so we did better than what the media will ever give us credit for. No instant big name hype gratification, but solid work in the long run considering Bogdan will essentially be our 2017 draft pick.
Isaiah Cousins reminds me of Eric Snow
Papa looks tob e groomed for that Marc Gasol role, especially since Cuz is losing weight and can shoot
Richardson really reminds me of Gay, hope he develops fast but makes me question if we are retaining Casspi
Skal looks like the longest development project of the bunch so off to Reno
Bogdan looks legit, see you next year
FA and trades on the way
Papa looks tob e groomed for that Marc Gasol role, especially since Cuz is losing weight and can shoot
Richardson really reminds me of Gay, hope he develops fast but makes me question if we are retaining Casspi
Skal looks like the longest development project of the bunch so off to Reno
Bogdan looks legit, see you next year
FA and trades on the way
Isaiah Cousins?
He was referring to our 1st round pick this year. He believes this is a weak draft and 1/2 of the lotto will bust. He said the Kings only need 1 of 3 picks in the 1st round to reach their potential for this to be a successful draft for us. 13th overall: Papagiannis 22nd: Richardson 28th: Skal
He was referring to our 1st round pick this year. He believes this is a weak draft and 1/2 of the lotto will bust. He said the Kings only need 1 of 3 picks in the 1st round to reach their potential for this to be a successful draft for us. 13th overall: Papagiannis 22nd: Richardson 28th: Skal
IMO this draft only makes sense if we unload Cousins. Again, MO, this needs to be our highest priority right now.
If Cousins didn't do what Kayte C said this morning, get up, and march right into the FO and ask for a trade ASAP then I really have to question his sanity. The writings on the wall big fella. Your 26. It's time to go.
If Cousins didn't do what Kayte C said this morning, get up, and march right into the FO and ask for a trade ASAP then I really have to question his sanity. The writings on the wall big fella. Your 26. It's time to go.
You guy's need to listen to Ham in his podcast for some insight to the draft. It's exactly how some of us saw it play out and what's going on. Baldwin or Valentine isn't the answer and we like Big Papa more than anyone than was available. Scares me a little because usually I agree with Bruski more than Ham.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/page/kings-insider-podcast
http://www.csnbayarea.com/page/kings-insider-podcast