Vlade says DMC untradeable (on SiriusXmradio)
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Why are George Karl and Grant Napear even talking about the tradeability of Cousins? Where's the loyalty? It probably hurts his feelings when he hears that we are willing to trade him. I'm so sick of Grant talking about it... he really doesn't like Cousins. I just hope he realizes his fans are what matters most.
Very smart post and spot on observation. I agree, especially that it would be stupid to contradict Vlade's statement, a basketball icon who himself played and experienced how it was during their time.
And I hope the new roster coming this next season will really emulate that old glorious Kings style of play and hopefully stay away from relying too much on post-plays/heavy iso-plays (as in the Malone era). We need a little bit of versatility in offense with a better ball movement and faster pace to augment whatever adavntage we have in having a player in DMC. This would not be hard to come into fruition, since we have a willing and a complete player in DMC (our new and a bigger version of Webber) as our best player to lead this team. We need to replace some of our low basketball IQ players and those lazy on defense though.
And I hope the new roster coming this next season will really emulate that old glorious Kings style of play and hopefully stay away from relying too much on post-plays/heavy iso-plays (as in the Malone era). We need a little bit of versatility in offense with a better ball movement and faster pace to augment whatever adavntage we have in having a player in DMC. This would not be hard to come into fruition, since we have a willing and a complete player in DMC (our new and a bigger version of Webber) as our best player to lead this team. We need to replace some of our low basketball IQ players and those lazy on defense though.
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You ALWAYS equivocate. Unless you're dead serious. Subtlety is key. But a blanket statement in public? Nah.
"We have no plans to trade him" = slight equivocation.
"You always listen to offers, but we want Boogie here" = slight equivocation
You don't come out and say that a guy's untradeable, slap your coach's hand a bit, unless you mean it. Not publicly. You could do it on the phone with somebody. But publicly you've put your name behind it. You turn around and trade him nobody has any reason to believe anything that comes out of your mouth afterwards.
I think you are substituting in your own feelings for what's on paper now. You wouldn't consider him untradeable, so no matter how clearly somebody says he is, you can always just say, well they didn't mean it. But if you're Vlade, newly minted basketball kingpin, you can't do that. It would just be another in the long line of egg on the face front office debacles to turn around and in fact trade the guy you just called untradeable, in public, during an interview.
"We have no plans to trade him" = slight equivocation.
"You always listen to offers, but we want Boogie here" = slight equivocation
You don't come out and say that a guy's untradeable, slap your coach's hand a bit, unless you mean it. Not publicly. You could do it on the phone with somebody. But publicly you've put your name behind it. You turn around and trade him nobody has any reason to believe anything that comes out of your mouth afterwards.
I think you are substituting in your own feelings for what's on paper now. You wouldn't consider him untradeable, so no matter how clearly somebody says he is, you can always just say, well they didn't mean it. But if you're Vlade, newly minted basketball kingpin, you can't do that. It would just be another in the long line of egg on the face front office debacles to turn around and in fact trade the guy you just called untradeable, in public, during an interview.
It's nice to see The Vladfather waste no time in putting Karl and his ego in check while immediately putting an end to the nonsense. Also notice, things have been very quiet lately, a welcome turn of events. It was leak after leak after f'ing leak until Vlade arrived. Now......silencio.
That's leadership.
That's leadership.
Things can always change. What if he starts going nuts again? What if we continue to suck with him as our anchor? If Vlade traded him at the break next season when we are playing .300 ball, would anybody really care, including DMC? He's probably give Vlade a hug for getting him out of there. I don't think Vlade made that statement with the intention of shopping him right now. If fact, I think for sure he wants to go into next season and see how it plays out. I'm just saying don't be shocked if he did get traded in the next 2 years if we keep losing.
Glad to hear Vlade putting the end to this bullcrap and just quietly slapping coach's hand out of the cookie jar along the way.
Karl's job is to coach the team that he is given by the front office. It is not his job to proclaim who is tradeable and who isn't. He can put his opinion forward on team needs in terms of types of players, positions etc. but not on whether someone is tradeable or not. Just coach the damn team will you!
The only only person that can rebuild the trust between DMC and this team is Vlade and that is only that matters. Hopefully Karl puts his gigantic ego aside and coach DMC without any reservations or agendas.
Karl's job is to coach the team that he is given by the front office. It is not his job to proclaim who is tradeable and who isn't. He can put his opinion forward on team needs in terms of types of players, positions etc. but not on whether someone is tradeable or not. Just coach the damn team will you!
The only only person that can rebuild the trust between DMC and this team is Vlade and that is only that matters. Hopefully Karl puts his gigantic ego aside and coach DMC without any reservations or agendas.
1. In no way do I even want to entertain the thought of trading Cousins. At all.
2. I firmly believe that Vlade means what he says, and says what he means, buuuuuuut:
[tinfoil hat]
2. I firmly believe that Vlade means what he says, and says what he means, buuuuuuut:
[tinfoil hat]
- When you say, "everyone's available", you don't get anyone's best offer. You'll get a ton of crap offers for players.
- When you say, "he's untouchable", well, then you get GMs thinking either "hey, he's untouchable", or "hmm...what can we offer that is so good that they'll have to say yes?" They'll have to up their game in order to get Vlade to listen. Then, we're not looking at flexible pieces. At the very least, it's a bit of gamesmanship that PDA couldn't comprehend.
That simply isn't true. Your view is awfully shortsighted.
Making a statement like Vlade did and have it play out as posturing for the sake of driving up the price of a potential trade would speak heavily to the integrity of the entire business.
Going forward, who would take the Kings front office seriously in any type of negotiation? It would become much more difficult to attract free agents than it already is and it could hinder their ability to re-sign their own going forward. The potential ramifications of doing business like that goes well beyond DeMarcus Cousins.
Making a statement like Vlade did and have it play out as posturing for the sake of driving up the price of a potential trade would speak heavily to the integrity of the entire business.
Going forward, who would take the Kings front office seriously in any type of negotiation? It would become much more difficult to attract free agents than it already is and it could hinder their ability to re-sign their own going forward. The potential ramifications of doing business like that goes well beyond DeMarcus Cousins.
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Take Miller out of the deal and yes you would otherwise we are giving up way to much
For all the statements he's un-tradeable and blah blah blah things change so quickly in life/basketball all it means for now is he won't be traded before season starts. DMC could become unhappy with more losing or things could turn out great under coach Karl and DMC could lead us to a 30+ win season.
There is no such thing as untouchable unless your speaking of guys like LeBron/MJ these level type players.
For all the statements he's un-tradeable and blah blah blah things change so quickly in life/basketball all it means for now is he won't be traded before season starts. DMC could become unhappy with more losing or things could turn out great under coach Karl and DMC could lead us to a 30+ win season.
There is no such thing as untouchable unless your speaking of guys like LeBron/MJ these level type players.
And this is exactly why I HATE "what if" questions. This board was crazy before Chris Webber signed his huge contract with us back in the day. So many people were convinced their "what if" was right and that Webber was headed to Detroit.
DMC has done NOTHING but proclaim his desire to stay a Sacramento King, to win games, to get to the playoffs, etc. Instead of worrying about "what if" that's no longer true, why not at least show a bit of faith in Vlade to put some players around him who will make it easier for DMC to do all those things?
DMC has done NOTHING but proclaim his desire to stay a Sacramento King, to win games, to get to the playoffs, etc. Instead of worrying about "what if" that's no longer true, why not at least show a bit of faith in Vlade to put some players around him who will make it easier for DMC to do all those things?