Randolph arrested

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  1. Jkbiker

    Jkbiker Well-Known Member

    Former Memphis Grizzlies forward Zach Randolph could face similar penalties ex-teammate O.J. Mayo received in terms of being banned from the NBA for violation of the league's anti-drug policy.

    Randolph was arrested Wednesday and charged with “intent to sell” marijuana in Los Angeles. TMZ reported it was two pounds of marijuana.

    The league’s collective bargaining agreement with the players’ association says a player will be dismissed and disqualified from the NBA if he is convicted of, or pleads guilty, no contest or nolo contendere to, a crime involving the felony distribution of marijuana.

    Mayo was dismissed and disqualified from the NBA in 2016 for violating the terms of the league's anti-drug program, the first player to receive that punishment in a decade


    http://www.commercialappeal.com/sto...-nba-if-convicted-marijuana-charge/560838001/

    So even if a plea deal keeps him out of jail, if felony distribution still there, sounds like his career and his 2 yr contract with us is Toast
  2. pshn80

    pshn80 Well-Known Member

    You make a reasonable case for his innocence of anything more than hosting a party, you know, like buying a half a beef and serving it to your group of friends. It may not be true but it is feasible and a generous thing to do.

    I don't agree that " we all know it must be true (guilty of a felony)". We don't have to "know" at this point, we can't know at this point. We will learn what prosecutor, jury and judge determine in due time. I really don't know f he is guilty of this or any other felony.
  3. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    The presumption of innocence does not extend to battle-weary Kings fans who have been down this road one too many times, me thinks.
  4. ockingsfan

    ockingsfan Well-Known Member

    Usually, these athletes have heavy weight lawyers. I doubt he will be charged with a felony.

    He will probably bargain down to a misdemeanor and get a slap on the wrists.

    The Kings may be hoping the NBA voids the contract, to get them off the hook, but I doubt it happens. A lengthy suspension by the NBA may happen, but I can't see the NBA banning him, if he is not convicted of a felony.
  5. Capt. Factorial

    Capt. Factorial Cantry Member Staff Member Contributor

    But a plea deal would be for a reduced charges, therefore almost certainly not felony distribution.
  6. bajaden

    bajaden Well-Known Member

    Well, I go off to Gonzaga bay with my daughter, grandson, and a couple of friends, where there is no TV or Wi Fi, and I come back to this. Very sad. Even when the Kings try to do the right thing, somehow it blows up in their face. I'm willing to give Randolph the benefit of the doubt until it's proved that he's guilty. However, at the very least. he's guilty of bad judgement. If he's the one that was having the party, then he obviously invited some people he shouldn't have. I hope for his sake he's innocent, but I have a very bad feeling about this one.
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  7. bajaden

    bajaden Well-Known Member

    My question is, even though he might get reduced charges in a plea deal, does the NBA have some latitude in the penalty's. Might they still suspend him even though the courts decided to go with reduced charges?
  8. pdxKingsFan

    pdxKingsFan Well-Known Member

    It's interesting because a plea deal would likely result in pleading to something that will be legal shortly. So there's even some chance it all just goes away, but I suspect he'd still get a not insignificant suspension.

    If it was the NFL he'd already be suspended indefinitely and probably get half the season. I'm thinking he'll wind up around 8 games? Assuming he is able to make it go away quick.
  9. Capt. Factorial

    Capt. Factorial Cantry Member Staff Member Contributor

    It's tough for me to see a scenario where he doesn't get (at least) suspended. Unless he can convince the court that the pot was not his nor in his possession, then whatever the final disposition will be it will include "had two pounds of pot". Even if that's a misdemeanor, it will be a hefty suspension from the league. I can't recall anybody getting caught with so much, so I can't really say how big. In fact, I can't find any instances of a player being suspended by the NBA for possession at all, so it's completely wide open as far as precedent goes. Damon Stoudamire, after the infamous pot-in-aluminum-foil-at-the-airport-scanner incident was given a three-month suspension by the Blazers, but nothing additional from the NBA from what I can tell. One would note that he was caught with only a bit over an ounce of pot in that case, but it was also not a first offense for Damon (he and 'Sheed had pled out of a misdemeanor after being caught in a vehicle with less than one ounce, and there was another incident where he was caught with an unknown amount at home that was invalidated due to an illegal search).

    Obviously as Jkbiker pointed out, felony distribution is one-strike-and-you're-out. That appears to be what Randolph is currently charged with. He will clearly fight that. But if he pleas down, I just don't know what kind of suspension/penalty he might see.

    Well, regardless of whether it's legal in California or not, the NBA still bans usage of marijuana. I don't think the league will consider state-by-state differences in legality when they hand out whatever they hand out.
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  10. HndsmCelt

    HndsmCelt Well-Known Member

    Sort of... IF he is offered a plea to simple possession of more than 28 G that would be a misdemeanor. Current state law allows for possession of less than 28 G and that does not change. As of 2018 the SALE of weed becomes legal with in certain parameters but certainly not out of a backpack on the street without a license. So the most likely deal is Misdemeanor possession with a suspended sentence, mandatory counseling and fine, but that is no where near a lock.
  11. gunks

    gunks Well-Known Member

    Even though this might be the last we see of Z-bo, I can't really hate on Vlade for the signing.

    Z-Bo is one of Joerger's guys. Memphis freaking loves him. By all accounts he really turned it around from his Jailblazer days. This was kinda hard to predict. Especially with the way a lot of goofballs mellow when they're out of their 20s (this applies to people of all stripes, not just NBA players).

    The whole situation is pretty #kangz and amusing to me. I didn't have expectations for next season anyways, so oh well.... more time for Papa G! Haha
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2017
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  12. upinsmoke

    upinsmoke Well-Known Member

    I don't attribute this to #Kangz. This is Z. Randolph a grown man who was doing so something so incredibly stupid. It's on him period. I hope he gets the O.J Mayo treatment from the league.
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  13. Kingsfan23

    Kingsfan23 Well-Known Member

    He better, or that contract is going to have to be answered by someone (nevermind how I personally feel about the direction of it). 24 million dollars, and another blight
  14. Semi

    Semi Active Member



    I'm assuming you're joking about that but I'm sure there are alot of people on this board that actually think it. Papa G is so not ready for more time.
  15. John Galt

    John Galt Well-Known Member

    Do we get our money back if he gets kicked out of the NBA?
  16. pdxKingsFan

    pdxKingsFan Well-Known Member

    I was thinking along the lines of somehow part of the plea is they reduce the amount carried. I dunno, like a speeding ticket where you are 20 over and they wind up reducing it to 5 over kind of deal.

    He's going to have the highest powered attorney available so we'll see. Watch it all get pinned on the other dude.
  17. Blob

    Blob Well-Known Member

    Ha ha funny PS there, John G.

    Weed affects people differently. Some people handle dairy for example because they have lactase enzyme that breaks down lactose. Others don't have the enzyme (post infancy) and become lactose intolerant. It is not the perfect parallel of course but based on someone's genetic constitution and predisposition I think they have an adverse or pleasant experience with weed or somewhere in between. I don't care for it and agree it is demotivating substance. And I think it makes you dumber. I pride myself in my intelligence. I want to to add to my brain cells (neurogenesis) not subtract from this incalculable number ! ;)

    I have known people who love weed and I am like....why? The smell is okay. I am not as averse to it as you but don't actively want to inhale it. I know there are different strands but it is more miss than hit for me. Pass! I would rather have a frozen strawberry or passion fruit margarita with sugar on the rim. Served with side of warm tortilla chips and salsa now we are talking :)

    Back to the esteemed backpack carrying Z-BO, the real issue prospectively is was the 35 year old dude who dresses like he is 15 years old dealing??? I had this thought trying to get into his head and bear with me because it may sound far fetched but could have merit. Let's presume Z-BO is a strong advocate of marijuana use. A safe presumption I would say. What if he thought he was doing the projects in the neighborhood a favor my dealing my weed to those interested. What if he thought he was doing a public service for the community at a small profit???? What if he got a little natural high off the dealing of drugs and the emotional connection through consummation of a deal???

    Watts is a high crime area. A lot of gang activity. Is is possible Z-BO thinks by providing substance to calm nerves and take the edge off, he thinks he can quell the violent tendencies of the more extreme contingent??? I am presenting this from the perspective of chronic user (Z-BO) and how his love for weed would lead to the rational believe that others are in need of this substance for their emotional betterment.

    My last thought on this matter is even if he was actively dealing, which I believe he was based on circumstantial evidence, i.e. two pounds of pot equivalent to 2000 joints, is that almost NO ONE speaks to the cops under these circumstances, so if someone participated in a drug deal, it will be extremely difficult for witness or participant to attest to this fact. Cops are the unfortunately viewed as the enemy when they are just trying to keep the peace. So even if Randolph was guilty of dealing, a prosecution and conviction is unlikely.

    Here I was set to create a new thread about "Projective Competitiveness in 2017-18" and instead I am talking about two pounds of weed in the middle of August....good times! :rolleyes:
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  18. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    Create the thread. :) I'd much rather read people arguing about our potential competitiveness than have to be continually reminded that being a professional athlete doesn't necessarily mean the individual so honored has the brainpower necessary to handle it properly.
  19. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

    At the least it would be covered by insurance, I would guess.
  20. Capt. Factorial

    Capt. Factorial Cantry Member Staff Member Contributor

    I'm pretty sure that if a player gets kicked out of the league by the NBA, that the contract is voided.
  21. pdizo916

    pdizo916 Active Member

    The nba is overreacting.
  22. Blob

    Blob Well-Known Member

    I have been thinking about things like (a) gravity - a term that I think can be quantified now, related to how the defense shifts relative to a particular player (b) positionless basketball , related to gravity (3) our backcourt this year vs last year (d) and our prospective high usage players and benchmarks for success and the prospects for this to occur. This is what I have planned.

    It is easy (AND BORING!) to throw out prospective rotation and allotment of minutes. I know this is the frequent exercise in TDOS. This is normal but this is NOT interesting to me. What is more interesting are ALL these variables related to the personnel moves for the league as a whole and specific to the Kings. It is easy to write off the Kings upcoming season based on games played and proven star potential on the roster....

    But there are other variables worthy of exploring that I think will give fans hope! My new thread will address the concerns and the hope! This was the intention before sidetracked by two pounds of green in a backpack! But I hope we can get back on track soon with or without Z-BO. In the grand scheme his inclusion or exclusion is likely irrelevant to the fortunes of this group.
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  23. Blob

    Blob Well-Known Member

    What reaction are you referring to?
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  24. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

    LOL.

    Pretty sure? Or pretty pretty sure?
  25. Chupacabra

    Chupacabra Well-Known Member

    I am pretty not excited about this. Can we cut him? Why should he be allowed to subtract from the positivity that the kings org had created up to this point?
  26. Capt. Factorial

    Capt. Factorial Cantry Member Staff Member Contributor

    Pretty please with a cherry on top sure.

    It's certainly true for players who get banned from the NBA for *taking* drugs, I don't see why it wouldn't be true for other reasons for outright bans, but I can't find corroborating evidence.
  27. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

    I mean, I think you are 100% right.

    Kind of obvious that you would void the the contract if you are not legally able to fulfill it. Man that would be a royal screw up to lose out on 24 mil from throwing a weed party for all your homies.
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  28. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

    I for one hope we can cut him. I'm afraid though that short of a felony conviction, our hands are tied. This gets into legalities with which I am afraid I am unfamiliar.
  29. Npliam

    Npliam Well-Known Member

    2lbs!!!!????? Holy crap that is a lot of weed. What the hell was he thinking.
  30. Shamrock

    Shamrock Member

    They smoke weed everywhere not just Watts

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