Kings trade Tyrese and Buddy for Sabonis and Holiday and Lamb
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The thing is that we absolutely do not know what could happen in the ensuing days/months. Maybe we sneak into the playoffs/play-ins this season. Just doing that and reducing the #KANGZ stench could help our assets appreciate in value. Then we could potential unload players for more assets than they're worth now.
The problem with being a bad team is that everyone'll try to buy low on your assets because, well, they're on a terrible team. Even if the team's a first-round exit sort of squad, you can sell the players on it as "winning players" and get more for them.
Or maybe the Kings surprise us and wind up better than we think like the Bulls have this season? Who knows. i'm just choosing to not be distraught over a losing team trying to do something- anything- to break the cycle. Could it be Bill Murray driving his car off a cliff in Groundhog Day? Maybe, but there's only one way to find out.
The problem with being a bad team is that everyone'll try to buy low on your assets because, well, they're on a terrible team. Even if the team's a first-round exit sort of squad, you can sell the players on it as "winning players" and get more for them.
Or maybe the Kings surprise us and wind up better than we think like the Bulls have this season? Who knows. i'm just choosing to not be distraught over a losing team trying to do something- anything- to break the cycle. Could it be Bill Murray driving his car off a cliff in Groundhog Day? Maybe, but there's only one way to find out.
I don't disagree with this at all. However, it's a matter of how the GM executes the strategy as well.
An argument I've made that fits into the execution of a win now strategy is that Vlade absolutely should have traded the 2018 pick if the goal was to make the playoffs that season. If that #2 pick was not worth starting because you believed you were on the cusp of a playoff berth, then he wasn't worth drafting to begin with.
At the very least, Marvin should have been traded before the start of season 2. I don't like the strategy, but Monte pulled the trigger on trading his prized draft pick in year 2. Whatever strategy you choose, you can't half a## it.
An argument I've made that fits into the execution of a win now strategy is that Vlade absolutely should have traded the 2018 pick if the goal was to make the playoffs that season. If that #2 pick was not worth starting because you believed you were on the cusp of a playoff berth, then he wasn't worth drafting to begin with.
At the very least, Marvin should have been traded before the start of season 2. I don't like the strategy, but Monte pulled the trigger on trading his prized draft pick in year 2. Whatever strategy you choose, you can't half a## it.
Also, Sabonis apparently really wanted to come to California because his wife's from here. (Being born in Portland probably helps too)
Sure, she's from SoCal but we're technically the same state and none of the LA teams is going to have enough cap space/assets to pick him up in free agency in two years.
Sure, she's from SoCal but we're technically the same state and none of the LA teams is going to have enough cap space/assets to pick him up in free agency in two years.
no comparing games at all. Comparing fan hype. Haliburton is a slightly above average player. some of you act like he is gonna be a multi year all-star. he needs the ball to be effective at all when he is off ball he is invisible and he doesn't make anybody any better. he can jump passing lanes but on ball defense is on par with Buddy.
is it possible? Sure. Is it likely and worth any further emotional investment in the team? That judgement is up to each fan to decide.
this team used to have a high 3 point percentage as a strength when Monte took over. Currently we stand at 20th in the league and we just traded 2 of our best shooters to a team that was 25th. Our defensive rating was 29th and Indiana was 25th.
I get the trade from Indiana’s view. They add shooting. Hali and Turner could be a strong pick and roll combo. The team tanks this year. Etc….
I just don’t see how this trade doesn’t make our weaknesses worse.
this team used to have a high 3 point percentage as a strength when Monte took over. Currently we stand at 20th in the league and we just traded 2 of our best shooters to a team that was 25th. Our defensive rating was 29th and Indiana was 25th.
I get the trade from Indiana’s view. They add shooting. Hali and Turner could be a strong pick and roll combo. The team tanks this year. Etc….
I just don’t see how this trade doesn’t make our weaknesses worse.
This seems like a very big oversimplification of Hali’s game. The guy has a very bright future in this league. Naturally gifted passers and three point shooters are so desirable in today’s game for a reason. They are very easy to build around. Even if Haliburton never reached star potential something very special could’ve been built here with him as a major piece that would’ve lasted many years. The perceived ceiling of a Fox-Sabonis core just isn’t as high. Also Sabonis could just wind up leaving in two years.
I think this is just move 1 for what Monte wants his retool to be. Fox/Sabonis will be here game 1 next season, but literally everyone and everything else could be on the chopping block. I'd bet every single dollar I have the team won't enter game 1 next season with a new draft pick being the only change to what's currently on the team.
Is what it is. We've all been advocating for a proper rebuild for literally like 5+ years. Monte chose a different direction (likely at the behest of ownership) and put himself on the clock coinciding with the Sabonis contract. He'll get 2 years with his coach/Fox/Sabonis and the core he puts around them otherwise he's out.
Is what it is. We've all been advocating for a proper rebuild for literally like 5+ years. Monte chose a different direction (likely at the behest of ownership) and put himself on the clock coinciding with the Sabonis contract. He'll get 2 years with his coach/Fox/Sabonis and the core he puts around them otherwise he's out.