[Game] Kings @ Nuggets - 4/2/16 - 6 PT, 9 ET
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Does anyone know the deadline for Seth to pick up his option?
I think Seth could be a valuable rotation player for the kings next year.
I always wished vlade would have made that a team option, instead of player option, considering we were apparently the only ones that offered him a guaranteed contract last summer.
Now we have to wait and see if curry picks up the option or re-signs with us.
I think Seth could be a valuable rotation player for the kings next year.
I always wished vlade would have made that a team option, instead of player option, considering we were apparently the only ones that offered him a guaranteed contract last summer.
Now we have to wait and see if curry picks up the option or re-signs with us.
K
And having Cousins in 2010 has done diddly squat for us unless your measure of success is coaches fired. You're right, we can all play this game too 
Seems the bottom line is there's no winning with the Kings. So does that mean we should or shouldnt win?
Seems the bottom line is there's no winning with the Kings. So does that mean we should or shouldnt win?
your snark is consistent. Admirable.
Pointless and trolling, but admirable.
Yeah, who wants to watch an all star every night anyway? Apparently not some kings fans.
The desire by some to make this team LESS talented is part of some delusion I don't share.
As for Mac, as has been pointed out before, the day cuz arrived we were on our 4th coach since Adelman. Didn't start with cuz, and as long as the top of the organization remains ran by incompetents, there's a good chance it continues once he leaves.
Pointless and trolling, but admirable.
Yeah, who wants to watch an all star every night anyway? Apparently not some kings fans.
The desire by some to make this team LESS talented is part of some delusion I don't share.
As for Mac, as has been pointed out before, the day cuz arrived we were on our 4th coach since Adelman. Didn't start with cuz, and as long as the top of the organization remains ran by incompetents, there's a good chance it continues once he leaves.
Well, the haters will no longer be able to say "Cousins has never won 30 games". Now it'll be "Cousins has never won 35".
It's always Cousins fault for the lack of winning, yet he's only been here for about half of the drought. Most with an agenda against the team's best player refuse to acknowledge that this dumpster fire began numerous years before #15 set foot in Sacramento. And the few that do still want to blame him for not being able to single-handedly overcome it all.
We have such a reasonable bunch around these parts.
It's always Cousins fault for the lack of winning, yet he's only been here for about half of the drought. Most with an agenda against the team's best player refuse to acknowledge that this dumpster fire began numerous years before #15 set foot in Sacramento. And the few that do still want to blame him for not being able to single-handedly overcome it all.
We have such a reasonable bunch around these parts.
And having Cousins in 2010 has done diddly squat for us unless your measure of success is coaches fired. You're right, we can all play this game too Seems the bottom line is there's no winning with the Kings. So does that mean we should or shouldnt win?
Seems the bottom line is there's no winning with the Kings. So does that mean we should or shouldnt win?
You know, I don't think its that people hate DeMarcus. I just think they're tired of the drama. You, me, and most of the people on this forum are way more emotionally invested in the Kings than the average Joe Blow on the street that goes to 5 or 6 games a year and watches them on TV when he or she has nothing better to do. To the average person, Cousins is a polarizing figure that has become an annoyance. They don't want to hear about him anymore. They could care less about the stats he puts up.
I don't envy Vlade this summer. He has to make some hard decisions. I can easily argue for keeping Cousins and trying once again to build a team around him. I find it harder to argue for trading him because I have no idea what we can get for him. Would I trade him for Karl Anthony Towns? Yes I would, because I think he can be as good if not a better player than Cousins down the road. But the T Wolves would never make that trade. My point is, there are players that I might trade Cousins for. But not many!
I'm sure that some would argue that it would be addition by subtraction. I don't buy that one. Like him or not, Cousins is an all star and the best center in the NBA if not the world. I fail to see how subtracting him from your team makes the team better. Is it possible that trading him for two or three lesser, but quality players would make us a better team? Maybe, but that's a huge risk to take, and if it doesn't work, he's gone. Of course there's the possibility that we retool around Cuz again, and were right back here next year with the same story. Not likely, but certainly possible. What then? We would have far less leverage in a trade then than we do now. As I said, I don't envy Vlade.
I don't envy Vlade this summer. He has to make some hard decisions. I can easily argue for keeping Cousins and trying once again to build a team around him. I find it harder to argue for trading him because I have no idea what we can get for him. Would I trade him for Karl Anthony Towns? Yes I would, because I think he can be as good if not a better player than Cousins down the road. But the T Wolves would never make that trade. My point is, there are players that I might trade Cousins for. But not many!
I'm sure that some would argue that it would be addition by subtraction. I don't buy that one. Like him or not, Cousins is an all star and the best center in the NBA if not the world. I fail to see how subtracting him from your team makes the team better. Is it possible that trading him for two or three lesser, but quality players would make us a better team? Maybe, but that's a huge risk to take, and if it doesn't work, he's gone. Of course there's the possibility that we retool around Cuz again, and were right back here next year with the same story. Not likely, but certainly possible. What then? We would have far less leverage in a trade then than we do now. As I said, I don't envy Vlade.
Hard to answer that question because we have no idea what the other teams above us are going to do. We could win all the remaining games, and still not lose the pick. Not a risk I would like to take. Worse case scenario would be we end up in the 10 spot, and then have a team behind us move up into the top three, thereby moving us into the 11th spot. Sitting at 10 would make the lottery far more exciting for a variety of reasons. Rather be at 7.
Almost there... You've correctly identified the symptom, but not the root cause. We are a treadmill team because the foundation of the team is so rotten (without DMC it's a 17-win team) that no amount of single super-star talent can elevate it higher than 30-35 wins. You can argue what exactly has contributed to the rotten foundation this year (my list starts and mostly ends with the coach), but to claim that Cuz has played any major role in this team being bad this season is pretty disingenuous, in my opinion. You can't jump very high while your feet are stuck in quick sand.
As many have said, give Cuz a .400 team and he'll get you deep in the playoffs. Apparently, for most Kings fans (don't mean you specifically) it's an unreasonable proposition.
As many have said, give Cuz a .400 team and he'll get you deep in the playoffs. Apparently, for most Kings fans (don't mean you specifically) it's an unreasonable proposition.
Because GO KINGS!! and because we suck at drafting anyways so signing mediocre free agents>taking a stab in the draft. For instance last summer signing Marco Bellinelli> drafting WCS(with guys like Booker, Mudiay, Winslow all on the board as well) according to some on here. Guys we are not good enough to be giving away lottery picks, sure we suck at drafting but every year is another stab at it. Maybe this is the year we pick a guy like Kawhi, Booker, Jimmy Butler. Just because we aren't picking a top 2 player doesn't mean you picks can't become stars. I will be more than happy to concede the pick when we become a playoff team. Giving away you're pick and not making the playoffs is at the pits of mediocrity.
K
I agree with for the most part but the last line (bolded) that has to be proven first for me to believe it, many of those same people for years had said if we were in the East (West is way weaker now) we would make the playoffs and now it looks like it will take 39-42 games to get into the playoffs (East took 38-40) and we with the best roster we have had (yes Karl is a moron) won't sniff 38wins.
Well, we won't know for sure until this franchise pulls its head out of its ass (or Cuz decides he's had enough of idiots wasting his prime years), but all signs as well as basic math point to one thing - DMC can get you 15-20 wins by himself, even with all the turmoil. So all we really need to do is field a slightly below-average team around him with a non-decrepit coach. Vlade did the former but we're still stuck with the latter. Until this last hurdle is cleared, it's too early to throw in the towel on the core we do have. Get a coach that gives a damn, get our defense to a league average and we're in playoffs. Then use the hype and improved reputation to lure even one other All-Star and we're a contender. I really do believe it could be as simple as that.
