Cousins extension?

Discussion in 'Kings Rap' started by AusKing, Jan 7, 2017.

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Do you agree with the extension?

  1. Yes

    85.1%
  2. No

    7.0%
  3. Not sure

    7.9%
  1. notoriousBEN3

    notoriousBEN3 Active Member

    If this is really happening, which it appears it is, I think it's time to go all in on John Wall. Then we find some guys who can shoot the ball and stretch the floor, and we might be on to something here.
  2. upinsmoke

    upinsmoke Well-Known Member

    Unless Washington offers J. Wall 200M as well in which case it's most likely not going to happen.
  3. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

    Yes.

    But keep Lawson as a backup. And Koufos.
  4. Sac.1989

    Sac.1989 Well-Known Member

    i do see us exploring bringing in wall/bledsoe - only after we've locked up cousins.

    really if you get one of them thats key. The other would be a much easier to sell knowing two of his good mates are running and gunning together and he is somewhat missing out.

    lets face it. Washington and Phx aint no closer than we are to winning so come win here
  5. itzcoatl

    itzcoatl Well-Known Member

    John Wall is not eligible for the designated player money that DMC got. Washington can't offer more money to him.
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  6. Bricklayer

    Bricklayer Don't Make Me Use The Bat Staff Member Contributor

    Question though: if he makes Third Team All NBA this summer would he become eligible for it? Doubtful in a year of monster performances but his numbers are up too.
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  7. itzcoatl

    itzcoatl Well-Known Member

    I can't claim to be a guru on this subject. Just read some articles. But I did dig some info from this Washington Post article which states two ways a player can be eligible:
    1. He makes one of the three all-NBA teams or is named either defensive player of the year or most valuable player the previous season.
    2. He has made one of the three all-NBA teams or has been named defensive player of the year in two of the prior three seasons or the league’s most valuable player in one of the three prior seasons.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-bargaining-agreement/?utm_term=.6678bd9eaeaf

    So, we have to keep our fingers crossed that he does not receive these qualifying accolades to have a better shot at stealing him from Washington.
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  8. upinsmoke

    upinsmoke Well-Known Member

    Well that settles it let's get J. Wall and Bledsoe.
  9. itzcoatl

    itzcoatl Well-Known Member

    Right?!:)

    For reference here were the three all-NBA teams last year. We have to hope that Wall does not make any. It looks like Harden will likely make it in this year, though players like Lillard and Klay T might be vulnerable.

    [Edit: Gotta figure Isaiah Thomas is gonna make it this year too and Double edit: Derozan and maybe even Wade are contenders too.]

    2015-16


    FIRST TEAM

    F: LeBron James
    F: Kawhi Leonard
    C: DeAndre Jordan
    G: Stephen Curry
    G: Russell Westbrook

    SECOND TEAM

    F: Kevin Durant
    F: Draymond Green
    C: DeMarcus Cousins
    G: Chris Paul
    G: Damian Lillard

    THIRD TEAM

    F: Paul George
    F: LaMarcus Aldridge
    C: Andre Drummond
    G: Klay Thompson
    G: Kyle Lowry
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2017
  10. kingsboi

    kingsboi Well-Known Member

    I have a feeling future NFL players will start considering a career change.
  11. kingsboi

    kingsboi Well-Known Member

    Why do people on here seem to think that John Wall is available? Just because Boogie says he wants to bring him to Sacramento doesn't necessarily mean it will happen, it's wishful thinking. Wall is having himself a hell of a season so far, he is continuing to get better and better with the jumpshot too. He is not available, he is playing like a franchise player this season. Let's stop this nonsense and start talking about players that are realistic.
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  12. KingsFanSince85

    KingsFanSince85 Well-Known Member

    Does it really matter? This isn't singles tennis where success and failure rests upon the shoulders of just one. This is a team sport where numerous others, including the front office, factor in. The fact that Cousins hasn't experienced winning records or playoff games shouldn't exclude him from anything since others failing at their job has played such an enormous factor in why those things have yet to occur.

    But to answer your first question, you could list pretty much every top draft pick prior to the changes that yielded rookie contracts. They would often begin their career as the highest paid player on the team or somewhere near the top. In 1994, Glenn Robinson signed a 10-yr contract worth 68M (big deal back then) before ever stepping on to the court. That was the compromise to the 13-yr 100M contract he had been seeking.
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  13. mac

    mac Well-Known Member

    Hope you all enjoy complaining about how Cousins has no talent around him when all we can afford is middle-of-the-pack vets
  14. Bricklayer

    Bricklayer Don't Make Me Use The Bat Staff Member Contributor

    That's all anybody else will be able to afford too.

    And its kind of irrelevant, because that's all that will sign here anyway, UNLESS, having a stable Boogie franchise piece might in time attract a play with Boogie friend. That's nothing to count on though, and not really 100% needed. You can absolutely build complete teams around a single star. You just have to, amazingly enough, make good moves.
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  15. VF21

    VF21 #InVladeWeTrust Staff Member Contributor

    Have you perused some of the threads in the Personnel Moves section lately? :p
  16. upinsmoke

    upinsmoke Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't bet the farm (maybe the old barn) on it but it's possible. If Cuz and Wall really are BFF's there's a chance.
  17. kingsboi

    kingsboi Well-Known Member

    I appreciate your optimism.
  18. kupman

    kupman Well-Known Member

    Just thought it was interesting. Maybe it is a first.
  19. CurseOfTheSalmons

    CurseOfTheSalmons Well-Known Member

    I want us to have a special player like Dirk who is with the team for their whole career. Cousins wants to be that guy, and he's really good, so I want him here.
  20. Lopes

    Lopes New Member

    I want a winning team more than that
  21. SLAB

    SLAB Well-Known Member

    And Cuz is the guy who has the highest probability of getting us there.
  22. steelevt

    steelevt Well-Known Member

    Why not want both?
  23. Joshoua

    Joshoua New Member

    Ya Wall isn't the DMC friend we are gonna get it will be Bledsoe. After they draft there pg I'm certain he'll be in the block.
  24. Siranthony

    Siranthony Active Member

    Is it just me?.... Or does it sound weird to pay 500m for an arena and 175m for one single player for a few years. Basketball is just about insane. Hard to justify.
  25. Tetsujin

    Tetsujin The Game Thread Dude

    Little talent but a fantastic assortment of 3-and-D role player dudes (Jamario Moon, Quentin Richardson, Dorell Wright, etc) , old washed up former all-stars milking the last couple of ounces of success from their brittle bones (Jermaine O'Neal and Shawn Marion at various times), scrappy defensive role player big men who knew how to stay out of D-Wade's way on offense (a surprisingly productive Udonis Haslem and Joel Anthony), rookie Michael Beasley back when people thought he could one day become an all-star, and of course Pat Riley and Eric Spoelstra running the show and grit-and-grinding their way to victories. Those two teams are an amazing display of what proper roster construction and system design to maximize your star's strengths can do. As with almost any Pat Riley squad the defense was smothering and Wade and his role players provided just enough points to win.

    It's still a minor miracle that Wade managed to will those squads to as many victories as they had but let's not pretend Wade had to deal with PDA level incompetency here and one can argue that Vlade is trying to construct a similar situation here (surround the star with gritty role players, play defense, hope to score enough points to win).
  26. KingsFanGER

    KingsFanGER Well-Known Member

    Wholeheartedly agree. Especially on the part, that one can argue, that Vlade is trying to do something similar, because...we can really argue about that....;)
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  27. CyKings

    CyKings Member

    not yet. If he runs his contract down, then in the next couple of years the Kings might have the assets to get him for a year then have a chance to give him a big deal to pair with Cousins.
  28. dude12

    dude12 Well-Known Member

    I'd give the people who don't think Cousins can win....I'd give that line of thinking some credibility if Cousins was surrounded by deep playoff run type roster. And I should add having a good coach in place for more than than 12 months.

    Our SG's have been fairly poor, our PGs have not been able to guard anyone and the one PG that could score at will was traded or let go for nothing. JT, our PF for so many years isn't even in the league, etc, etc

    Now we have some good role players on the team but we are missing a top notch PG and/or two other players who could be considered borderline all-stars or top tier talents. Rudy Gay is/was one. I'd like to see a top PG with Boogie and then see what happens.
  29. kingsboi

    kingsboi Well-Known Member

    I appreciate your optimism.
  30. DesertFox

    DesertFox Active Member

    The closest thing Cousins had to a promising roster was during his rookie year.

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