TDOS All Time Kings Fantasy Draft II (Round 10)
- Thread starter Bricklayer
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With my last pick I need another player who can bring the ball up and do a decent job of distributing. This guy averaged over 8 assists per 36 minutes and was a decent player during his short stint with Sacramento. He can back up Randy Brown and team up with Barry and Pinckney to bring some energy off the bench and keep the crowd into it while the starters rest.
I had similar qualms as Bricklayer about picking part time guys, but with the paucity of good choices here I'd rather get a very good half season than a crappy full (or closer to full) one.
Sergio Rodriguez
2009-10 39gms 13.3min 6.0pts (.463 .357 .694) 1.3reb 3.1ast 0.7stl 0.1blk 1.5TO
I had similar qualms as Bricklayer about picking part time guys, but with the paucity of good choices here I'd rather get a very good half season than a crappy full (or closer to full) one.
Sergio Rodriguez
2009-10 39gms 13.3min 6.0pts (.463 .357 .694) 1.3reb 3.1ast 0.7stl 0.1blk 1.5TO
alright, let me get the boards cleaned up, then, 2 things. Well 3 things:
1) Great draft guys. Unlike certain drafts that will go unnamed we moved through very smoothly.
2) I am thinking we should leave a few days here in case anybody wants to make a trade or pick up a free agent. How about through Tuesday? To give all the statesiders a chance to get back from Labor Day weekend.
3) If everybody could just whenever they get a chance produce their lineups as they see them, and just post them here in this format:
C-
PF-
SF-
SG-
PG-
BN-
BN-
BN-
BN-
Coach-
and maybe try to roughly order your bench according to minutes/role. I know mine isn't really sortable that way, but if yours has a distinct 6th man or a distinct 9th man, might as well sort it/feature it that way.
You can label the 6th etc. guys by position too if you want
1) Great draft guys. Unlike certain drafts that will go unnamed we moved through very smoothly.
2) I am thinking we should leave a few days here in case anybody wants to make a trade or pick up a free agent. How about through Tuesday? To give all the statesiders a chance to get back from Labor Day weekend.
3) If everybody could just whenever they get a chance produce their lineups as they see them, and just post them here in this format:
C-
PF-
SF-
SG-
PG-
BN-
BN-
BN-
BN-
Coach-
and maybe try to roughly order your bench according to minutes/role. I know mine isn't really sortable that way, but if yours has a distinct 6th man or a distinct 9th man, might as well sort it/feature it that way.
You can label the 6th etc. guys by position too if you want
And now, to introduce the Jespher owned Sacramento Kings of 2013-2014, Scott Moak...
Bringing in an epic amount of scoring, assists, and turnovers, this season was a great success for the Sacramento Kings. Totaling 41.4 win shares, they valiantly fought for the 8th seed all season, eventually falling to the Dallas Mavericks, though well surpassing the previous season total of 28 victories.
Starting Line-up
C- Spencer Hawes - 77gms 29.3min 11.4pts (.466 .348 .662) 7.1reb 1.9ast 0.6stl 1.2blk 2.1TO
PF- Chris Webber - 70gms 40.5min 27.1pts (.481 .071 .703) 11.1rebs 4.2ast 1.3stl 1.7blk 2.8TO
SF- Walt Williams - 77gms 35.6min 16.4pts (.446 .348 .731) 4.5reb 4.1ast 1.6stl 0.8blk 3.2TO
SG- Danny Ainge - 75gms 36.4min 17.9pts (.438 .374 .831) 4.3reb 6.0ast 1.5stl 0.2blk 2.5TO
PG- Reggie Theus - 82gms 35.6min 18.3pts (.480 .171 .827) 3.7rebs 9.6ast 1.4stl 0.2blk 4.0TO
BN- Antoine Carr (6th Man) - Back up power forward/center
77gms 32.8min 20.1pts (.511 .000 .758) 5.5reb 2.5ast 0.6stl 1.3blk 2.2TO
BN- Anthony Peeler - (7th Man) Back-up shooting guard/small forward
75gms 18.5min 5.7pts (.448 .482 .836) 2.0reb 1.6ast 0.7stl 0.1blk 1.0TO
BN- Eddie House - Back-up point guard (Daily rotation for 50 games) (8th man)
50gms 11min 4.7pts (.458 .452 .929) 1.2reb 1.3ast 0.4stl 0.1blk 0.4TO
BN- Mikki Moore - 4th Big (8th man without House, 9th man with House)
82gms 29.1min 8.5pts (.577 .000 .736) 6.0reb 1.0ast 0.4stl 0.6blk 1.3TO
Coach- Keith Smart (Run and Gun!)
Comparing per game statistics to NBA teams from 2013-2014 they lead the league in several categories:
PPG 130.1 (2013-14 #1 = 107.9 Clippers)
APG 32.2 (2013-14 #1 = 25.2 Spurs)
RPG 45.4 (2013-14 #1 = 46.4 Trailblazers)(45.4 = 6th place)
SPG 8.5 (2013-14 #1 = 9.3 76ers)(8.5 = 7th place)
BPG 6.2 (2013-14 #1 = 6.4 Pelicans)(6.2 = 2nd place)
TOPG 19.5 (16.4 = 30th 76ers)
20013-14 NBA Comparison
PPG – 1st 130.1
APG – 1st 32.2
RPG – 6th 45.4
SPG – 7th 8.5
BPG – 2nd 6.2
TOPG – 30th 19.5
9 Player Team Win Share Total = 41.4 (10th Western Conference 2013-2014)
Strengths:
Bringing in an epic amount of scoring, assists, and turnovers, this season was a great success for the Sacramento Kings. Totaling 41.4 win shares, they valiantly fought for the 8th seed all season, eventually falling to the Dallas Mavericks, though well surpassing the previous season total of 28 victories.
Starting Line-up
C- Spencer Hawes - 77gms 29.3min 11.4pts (.466 .348 .662) 7.1reb 1.9ast 0.6stl 1.2blk 2.1TO
PF- Chris Webber - 70gms 40.5min 27.1pts (.481 .071 .703) 11.1rebs 4.2ast 1.3stl 1.7blk 2.8TO
SF- Walt Williams - 77gms 35.6min 16.4pts (.446 .348 .731) 4.5reb 4.1ast 1.6stl 0.8blk 3.2TO
SG- Danny Ainge - 75gms 36.4min 17.9pts (.438 .374 .831) 4.3reb 6.0ast 1.5stl 0.2blk 2.5TO
PG- Reggie Theus - 82gms 35.6min 18.3pts (.480 .171 .827) 3.7rebs 9.6ast 1.4stl 0.2blk 4.0TO
BN- Antoine Carr (6th Man) - Back up power forward/center
77gms 32.8min 20.1pts (.511 .000 .758) 5.5reb 2.5ast 0.6stl 1.3blk 2.2TO
BN- Anthony Peeler - (7th Man) Back-up shooting guard/small forward
75gms 18.5min 5.7pts (.448 .482 .836) 2.0reb 1.6ast 0.7stl 0.1blk 1.0TO
BN- Eddie House - Back-up point guard (Daily rotation for 50 games) (8th man)
50gms 11min 4.7pts (.458 .452 .929) 1.2reb 1.3ast 0.4stl 0.1blk 0.4TO
BN- Mikki Moore - 4th Big (8th man without House, 9th man with House)
82gms 29.1min 8.5pts (.577 .000 .736) 6.0reb 1.0ast 0.4stl 0.6blk 1.3TO
Coach- Keith Smart (Run and Gun!)
Comparing per game statistics to NBA teams from 2013-2014 they lead the league in several categories:
PPG 130.1 (2013-14 #1 = 107.9 Clippers)
APG 32.2 (2013-14 #1 = 25.2 Spurs)
RPG 45.4 (2013-14 #1 = 46.4 Trailblazers)(45.4 = 6th place)
SPG 8.5 (2013-14 #1 = 9.3 76ers)(8.5 = 7th place)
BPG 6.2 (2013-14 #1 = 6.4 Pelicans)(6.2 = 2nd place)
TOPG 19.5 (16.4 = 30th 76ers)
20013-14 NBA Comparison
PPG – 1st 130.1
APG – 1st 32.2
RPG – 6th 45.4
SPG – 7th 8.5
BPG – 2nd 6.2
TOPG – 30th 19.5
9 Player Team Win Share Total = 41.4 (10th Western Conference 2013-2014)
Strengths:
- Assist to turnover ratio of 1.65/1
- Scoring per game is 2nd among drafters (Dime Dropper's squad is #1) and stressed with the offensive leanings of Keith Smart
- Shooting efficiency from mid range and 3 point line to space the floor for Webber, Carr, Hawes, and driving lanes inside
- Excellent length across all positions to reduce opponent field goal percentage, rebounding rate, and increase deflections and steal %
- Veteran leadership across the board with only two players (Hawes and Williams) in their first 6 years in the league, and no rookies learning the ropes
- Minutes and games played demonstrates durability and aptitude (allegedly)
- Fun style of play emphasizing passing, ball movement, spacing, and offensive explosiveness
- Free throw shooting above league average across positions
- Turnover prone: 19.5 per game is atrocious!
- 9 players signed, opposed to league allowed 13 suited per game...
- Mediocre rebounding team at 45.4 per game
- Only 6.2 blocks per game with reduced rim protection once perimeter defense falters
- Shifty head coach who will panic and scrap the game plan instead of trusting his team talent
- Inflated offensive stats due to playing tempo, not as sustainable once defense stiffens into half court grinding games
- Lack of true back-up point guard for 32 games due to Eddie House's limited role 2004-2005, with point forward status hinging on turnover prone Walt Williams and (alleged) shooting guard Danny Ainge
- 12 games with Antoine Carr filling in for Webber valiantly, but with less rebounding and passing proficiency
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C - DeMarcus Cousins: 71gms 32.4min 22.7pts (.496 .000 .726) 11.7rebs 2.9ast 1.5stl 1.3blk 3.5TO
PF - Brad Miller: 72gms 36.4min 14.1pts (.510 .316 .778) 10.3reb 4.3ast 0.9stl 1.2blk 2.0TO
SF - Hedo Turkoglu: 80gms 24.6min 10.1pts (.422 .368 .726) 4.5rebs 2.0ast 0.7stl 0.4blk 1.0TO
SG - Francisco Garcia: 65gms 30.4mpg 12.7ppg (.444 .398 .820) 3.4reb 2.3ast 1.2stl 1.0blk 1.7TO
PG - Tyus Edney: 80gms 31.0min 10.8pts (.412 .368 .782) 2.5reb 6.1ast 1.1stl 0.0blk 2.4TO
BN - Mike McGee: 37gms 23.9min 14.2pts (.421 .340 .771) 3.9reb 1.6ast 1.3stl 0.2blk 1.6TO
BN - Greivis Vasquez: 18gms 25.8min 9.8pts (.433 .320 .938) 1.9reb 5.3ast 0.3stl 0.1blk 1.5TO
BN - Michael "The Animal" Smith: 81gms 31.2mpg 6.6ppg (.539 .000 .496) 9.5reb 2.4ast 1.0stl 0.7blk 1.6TO
BN - Pervis Ellison: 34gms 25.5min 8.0pts (.442 .000 .628) 5.8reb 1.9ast 0.5stl 1.7blk 1.8TO
Coach - Michael Malone: 28-54 .341
-The Frontcourt-
The frontcourt is built, obviously, around the amazing talents of DeMarcus Cousins. My team doesn't have an all-in-one perfect fit for Cuz a la Serge Ibaka but each one of my bigs brings a different and relevant benefit to Cousins' game when paired with him. Miller is a full sized uber-skilled center that can play the hi-low game with Cousins, recreating a dynamic similar to what Memphis has with Gasol and Randolph. Given the size and the multifaceted skillset of both players this pairing will be a matchup nightmare for most teams.
Turkoglu, if slotted at PF, is your prototypical stretch 4. Quick enough to guard mobile PFs, good enough from three point land to open enormous spaces for Cousins, enough brains to keep the ball moving and not chuck it up.
Michael Smith is the enforcer. Coming in to crash the boards and protect Cousins (and Miller) from dirty plays and opponents trying to get under their skin. He is also able to clean up misses efficiently and has surprisingly good assist numbers.
Ellison is the mobile shotblocker. Metta World Peace and Keon Clark aren't walking through that door, I hope I can squeeze a good defense out of size, IQ, rebounding and Michael Malone on the bench. When the plan fails, Ellison will be ready to go in and block some shots.
-The backcourt-
Turkoglu and Garcia bring tremendous size, good defense and ball movement. They're there to act as high-level glue guys by punishing double teams, make some plays off the dribble and cut to the rim for easy baskets thanks to Miller's and Cousins' passing ability. Vasquez and Edney act as floor generals, their playing time will vary depending on matchups and what kind of pace is needed. McGee is your typical scoring 6th man, he's the second best guy in the team (the best being Cousins) at putting up points in a hurry, as his per36 numbers show.
-Situational lineups-
Positional flexibility is something I looked for in my players and my team can play a variety of styles and be a tough matchup for a lot of opponents, either by going small Stan Van Gundy style with a Edney/McGee/Garcia/Turkoglu/Cuz lineup or by going big and moving the ball in the half-court with a Vasquez/Garcia/Turkoglu/Miller/Cousins lineup. An interesting second unit would be a defensive frontcourt with Ellison/Smith/Turkoglu and a gunning backcourt with Edney/McGee.
PF - Brad Miller: 72gms 36.4min 14.1pts (.510 .316 .778) 10.3reb 4.3ast 0.9stl 1.2blk 2.0TO
SF - Hedo Turkoglu: 80gms 24.6min 10.1pts (.422 .368 .726) 4.5rebs 2.0ast 0.7stl 0.4blk 1.0TO
SG - Francisco Garcia: 65gms 30.4mpg 12.7ppg (.444 .398 .820) 3.4reb 2.3ast 1.2stl 1.0blk 1.7TO
PG - Tyus Edney: 80gms 31.0min 10.8pts (.412 .368 .782) 2.5reb 6.1ast 1.1stl 0.0blk 2.4TO
BN - Mike McGee: 37gms 23.9min 14.2pts (.421 .340 .771) 3.9reb 1.6ast 1.3stl 0.2blk 1.6TO
BN - Greivis Vasquez: 18gms 25.8min 9.8pts (.433 .320 .938) 1.9reb 5.3ast 0.3stl 0.1blk 1.5TO
BN - Michael "The Animal" Smith: 81gms 31.2mpg 6.6ppg (.539 .000 .496) 9.5reb 2.4ast 1.0stl 0.7blk 1.6TO
BN - Pervis Ellison: 34gms 25.5min 8.0pts (.442 .000 .628) 5.8reb 1.9ast 0.5stl 1.7blk 1.8TO
Coach - Michael Malone: 28-54 .341
-The Frontcourt-
The frontcourt is built, obviously, around the amazing talents of DeMarcus Cousins. My team doesn't have an all-in-one perfect fit for Cuz a la Serge Ibaka but each one of my bigs brings a different and relevant benefit to Cousins' game when paired with him. Miller is a full sized uber-skilled center that can play the hi-low game with Cousins, recreating a dynamic similar to what Memphis has with Gasol and Randolph. Given the size and the multifaceted skillset of both players this pairing will be a matchup nightmare for most teams.
Turkoglu, if slotted at PF, is your prototypical stretch 4. Quick enough to guard mobile PFs, good enough from three point land to open enormous spaces for Cousins, enough brains to keep the ball moving and not chuck it up.
Michael Smith is the enforcer. Coming in to crash the boards and protect Cousins (and Miller) from dirty plays and opponents trying to get under their skin. He is also able to clean up misses efficiently and has surprisingly good assist numbers.
Ellison is the mobile shotblocker. Metta World Peace and Keon Clark aren't walking through that door, I hope I can squeeze a good defense out of size, IQ, rebounding and Michael Malone on the bench. When the plan fails, Ellison will be ready to go in and block some shots.
-The backcourt-
Turkoglu and Garcia bring tremendous size, good defense and ball movement. They're there to act as high-level glue guys by punishing double teams, make some plays off the dribble and cut to the rim for easy baskets thanks to Miller's and Cousins' passing ability. Vasquez and Edney act as floor generals, their playing time will vary depending on matchups and what kind of pace is needed. McGee is your typical scoring 6th man, he's the second best guy in the team (the best being Cousins) at putting up points in a hurry, as his per36 numbers show.
-Situational lineups-
Positional flexibility is something I looked for in my players and my team can play a variety of styles and be a tough matchup for a lot of opponents, either by going small Stan Van Gundy style with a Edney/McGee/Garcia/Turkoglu/Cuz lineup or by going big and moving the ball in the half-court with a Vasquez/Garcia/Turkoglu/Miller/Cousins lineup. An interesting second unit would be a defensive frontcourt with Ellison/Smith/Turkoglu and a gunning backcourt with Edney/McGee.
Well, I'm afraid I have to one-up Jespher right here. He did a nice job of compiling his stats, but he didn't adjust his minutes (he's packing 268+ minutes into a 240 minute game) and I wonder (without checking) whether he's got too many shots going up. So I've gone ahead and pro-rated my team to come out to 240 minutes per game, and used reasonable rotation minutes. So, without further ado, here are the numbers for Capt. Factorial's Adelman All-Stars!
The raw stats:
Coach:
Rick Adelman (made playoffs 8 times in 8 seasons as Kings head coach)
The minutes breakdown (no player asked to play more than 36 mpg):
Starters:
PG Tyreke Evans - 36
SG Mitch Richmond - 36
SF Rodney McCray - 36
PF Carl Landry - 28
C Scot Pollard - 32
Bench:
PF/C Michael "Yogi" Stewart - 28
PG Jim Les - 16
SG/SF Ricky Berry - 16
SF/PF Donte Greene - 12
Statistical Comparison to 2013-2014 teams:
Stat MyTeam AverageTeam
Points 104.1 101.0
FGA 80.3 83.0 (Pace is reasonable)
FG% 0.479 0.454
3PTA 12.9 21.5
3PT% 0.391 0.36
FTA 29.4 23.6
FT% 0.750 0.756
Reb 44.5 42.7
Ast 21.2 22.0
Stl 7.3 7.7
Blk 7.1 4.7
TO 13.9 14.9
A/T 1.53 1.48
Win Shares (prorated to minutes played) 48.5 41.0
Strengths:
The raw stats:
Coach:
Rick Adelman (made playoffs 8 times in 8 seasons as Kings head coach)
The minutes breakdown (no player asked to play more than 36 mpg):
Starters:
PG Tyreke Evans - 36
SG Mitch Richmond - 36
SF Rodney McCray - 36
PF Carl Landry - 28
C Scot Pollard - 32
Bench:
PF/C Michael "Yogi" Stewart - 28
PG Jim Les - 16
SG/SF Ricky Berry - 16
SF/PF Donte Greene - 12
Statistical Comparison to 2013-2014 teams:
Stat MyTeam AverageTeam
Points 104.1 101.0
FGA 80.3 83.0 (Pace is reasonable)
FG% 0.479 0.454
3PTA 12.9 21.5
3PT% 0.391 0.36
FTA 29.4 23.6
FT% 0.750 0.756
Reb 44.5 42.7
Ast 21.2 22.0
Stl 7.3 7.7
Blk 7.1 4.7
TO 13.9 14.9
A/T 1.53 1.48
Win Shares (prorated to minutes played) 48.5 41.0
Strengths:
- An all-around strong team, generally near or above 2013-2014 NBA team averages. By adjusted win share stats would project to win 48-49 games (49 games was the 8th seed in the Western Conference in 2013-2014).
- Stacked with two-way players in the backcourt/wings. Richmond/Evans/McCray is one of the best offense/defense backcourts I can imagine from a 12-team Kings draft.
- Three very good passers in the starting backcourt/wings will allow for effective cuts and ball movement and we will be a threat to set up an easy basket no matter who has the ball on the perimeter.
- Surprising defense and rebounding in frontcourt. 7.1 blocks is 150% of league average. Pollard (9.7), Stewart (7.5), and Landry (8.5) all provide solid projected per-game rebounding. Rebounds are supplemented by good boarding from Tyreke and Mitch to bring the team above league average despite a frontcourt whose "eye test" would not indicate great rebounding.
- Landry and Greene (for the few minutes he plays in the frontcourt) have respectable jumpers and will open up driving lanes for Mitch/Tyreke.
- Free throw shooting. While only an average team in percentage, we rack up almost 6 attempts more per game than an average team. Tyreke and Mitch both will get to the line over 6 times per game, and McCray and Landry just under 4 times per game. Only Stewart (at 0.458) is a Hack-a-Shaq candidate.
- Rick Adelman
- Rick Adelman
- Rick Adelman - you know, only the greatest coach in Sacramento Kings' history by a huge margin. (I hate to pick on Jespher, but William Blake didn't do a detailed stat breakdown so I'm forced to pick on Jespher). Note that Jespher's team is projected in Win Shares to get 41.4 wins - before adjusting for the fact that he has too many minutes to go around, and without accounting for the fact that his coach is Keith Smart. My team is projected by minute-adjusted Win Shares to get 48.5 wins, and is coached by Rick Adelman. Who's going to win a series between these two teams? (Come on, everybody else! Bring on the minute-adjusted stats! I'll take you on!)
- A very outside-in team. Only one true post player in Carl Landry. The offense is heavily stacked on the perimeter players, though they too will get their share of shots at the rim. Offense will be initiated on the perimeter almost exclusively.
- Not a heavy three-point shooting team, especially considering the very good team percentage (0.390). Adelman may need to get Mitch and Les to shoot even more threes than they would normally have to take advantage of their great percentages and space the floor for Tyreke and McCray.
- Potentially tired frontcourt. While all other players will actually see a projected reduction in minutes from the season I selected, my defensive anchors Pollard (+9.5) and Stewart (+6.3) will be asked to play more minutes than they are accustomed to. Donte will need to get big post minutes in blowouts to rest the front line.
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You're correct, but I think you've tripped yourself up somewhere. I'll try to explain.
Win Shares are an accumulation stat, meaning the more you play, the more you get (if you're not negative net value). In principle you would simply add win shares together. However, Jespher's team plays more than 240 minutes per game (48 min. x 5 players), so he needs to adjust for that. (At the same time, his players didn't all play 82 games, so that adjustment would counteract that to some extent.)
My team would also have played more than 240 minutes per game, but I assigned approximate minutes such that the team comes up to 240 exactly before putting together my "team stats". For Win Shares, I simply used WS/48, divided by 48 to get WS/min, multiplied by minutes per game, then multiplied by 82 games. I'm using the assumption that I'm not going to have any injuries, but then again, I'm at least 3 and as much as 6 players short on my bench so I think that's fair for everybody.
Win Shares are an accumulation stat, meaning the more you play, the more you get (if you're not negative net value). In principle you would simply add win shares together. However, Jespher's team plays more than 240 minutes per game (48 min. x 5 players), so he needs to adjust for that. (At the same time, his players didn't all play 82 games, so that adjustment would counteract that to some extent.)
My team would also have played more than 240 minutes per game, but I assigned approximate minutes such that the team comes up to 240 exactly before putting together my "team stats". For Win Shares, I simply used WS/48, divided by 48 to get WS/min, multiplied by minutes per game, then multiplied by 82 games. I'm using the assumption that I'm not going to have any injuries, but then again, I'm at least 3 and as much as 6 players short on my bench so I think that's fair for everybody.
That makes sense. It sounded like you were weighting the win shares based on minutes, rather than just scaling them to 5x48 according to your assigned allotments.
I think resetting your minutes played is sorta cheating. I'm fiddling with mine based on their actual minutes per game (which is also cheating because they didn't play every game). Obviously none of this is rigorous, so it doesn't really matter in the end. Kind of a fun exercise. If I had time and a way to easily query and parse the basketball-reference data it would be fun to actually code something to make real comparisons easier.
I think resetting your minutes played is sorta cheating. I'm fiddling with mine based on their actual minutes per game (which is also cheating because they didn't play every game). Obviously none of this is rigorous, so it doesn't really matter in the end. Kind of a fun exercise. If I had time and a way to easily query and parse the basketball-reference data it would be fun to actually code something to make real comparisons easier.
- 49.59 mpg...
.Capt. Factorial's team only has a grand total of 17,992 minutes played and will have to forfeit 7+ games due to only having 4 men on the floor...
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Haha well props to everyone putting in so much effort in their lineups, rotations and minutes. Looks great. I don't have that much time so here you go:
Head Coach
Paul Westphal
Starters
C - Sam Dalembert
PF - Wayman Tisdale
SF - Peja Stojakovic
SG - Mitch Richmond
PG - Larry Drew
Bench
Jimmy Jackson - G/F
Kenny Thomas - F
Greg Ostertag - C
Toney Douglas - G
Rotation
C - Dalembert, Ostertag
PF - Tisdale, Thomas, Stojakovic
SF - Stojakovic, Jackson, Richmond
SG - Richmond, Jackson, Douglas
PG - Drew, Douglas
Head Coach
Paul Westphal
Starters
C - Sam Dalembert
PF - Wayman Tisdale
SF - Peja Stojakovic
SG - Mitch Richmond
PG - Larry Drew
Bench
Jimmy Jackson - G/F
Kenny Thomas - F
Greg Ostertag - C
Toney Douglas - G
Rotation
C - Dalembert, Ostertag
PF - Tisdale, Thomas, Stojakovic
SF - Stojakovic, Jackson, Richmond
SG - Richmond, Jackson, Douglas
PG - Drew, Douglas
I have been very busy at work for the last weeks, so I don't have much time to put the stats together. Maybe I'll fill them in later. Here's my team:
Starters
C - Duane Causewell
PF - Demarcus Cousins
SF - Harold Pressley
SG - Marcus Thornton
PG - Mike Bibby
Bench
Jim Petersen - PF/C
Vernon Maxwell - G
Rod Higgins - F
Aaron Brooks - PG
Rotation
C - Causewell, Cousins, Petersen
PF - Cousins, Petersen, Higgins
SF - Pressley, Higgins
SG - Thornton, Maxwell, Pressley
PG - Bibby, Brooks, Maxwell
Coach: Eric Musselman
Starters
C - Duane Causewell
PF - Demarcus Cousins
SF - Harold Pressley
SG - Marcus Thornton
PG - Mike Bibby
Bench
Jim Petersen - PF/C
Vernon Maxwell - G
Rod Higgins - F
Aaron Brooks - PG
Rotation
C - Causewell, Cousins, Petersen
PF - Cousins, Petersen, Higgins
SF - Pressley, Higgins
SG - Thornton, Maxwell, Pressley
PG - Bibby, Brooks, Maxwell
Coach: Eric Musselman
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C- Olden Polynice (1995-96): 81gms 30.1min 12.2pts (.527 .333 .601) 9.4reb 0.7ast 0.6stl 0.8blk 1.6TO
PF- Chris Webber (2000-01): 70gms 40.5min 27.1pts (.481 .071 .703) 11.1reb 4.2ast 1.3stl 1.7blk 2.8TO
SF- Lionel Simmons (1991-92): 79gms 37.1min 17.1pts (.454 .200 .770) 8.1reb 4.3ast 1.7stl 1.7blk 2.8TO
SG- Kevin Martin (2006-07): 80gms 35.2min 20.2pts (.473 .381 .844) 4.3reb 2.2ast 1.2stl 0.1blk 1.7TO
PG- Randy Brown (1992-93): 75gms 23.0min 7.6pts (.463 .333 .732) 2.8reb 2.6ast 1.4stl 0.5blk 1.6TO
BN- SG Jon Barry (1999-00): 62gms 20.1min 8.0pts (.465 .429 .922) 2.6reb 2.4ast 1.2stl 0.1blk 1.4TO
BN- PF/SF Ed Pinckney (1988-89): 51gms 24.2min 12.3pts (.502 .000 .801) 5.9reb 1.5ast 1.1stl 0.8blk 1.6TO
BN- C Bill Wennington (1990-91): 77gms 18.9mpg 5.7pts (.436 .200 .787) 4.4reb 0.9ast 0.6stl 0.8blk 0.7TO
BN- PG Sergio Rodriguez (2009-10): 39gms 13.3min 6.0pts (.463 .357 .694) 1.3reb 3.1ast 0.7stl 0.1blk 1.5TO
Coach- Eddie Jordan: 33-64 .340
Offense
Scoring is clearly a strength here. No team has both Peja and Webber, but Kevin Martin teamed with CWebb is a pretty great alternative. With Eddie Jordan as the coach installing some of the Princeton principles, you know Martin's offensive game will be improved (and even more efficient) with Webber finding him for open shots. Our SF isn't a three point shooter, but Jon Barry shot .429 from 3 on 2.5 attempts per game. He'll get plenty of open looks in this system, too. And there are capable passers everywhere you look, which will help as well. The rest of the players are all capable of scoring when necessary, so there will be no problem with offense on this team.
Defense
On defense, they might just be good rather than great, but they'll be plenty good. Randy Brown at the point and Webber in the middle are clearly above average defenders (this is CWebb as his younger, more athletic self). LTrain was still young and had decent knees, so he and Polynice keep things respectable. Martin was a poor defender but with Brown and Simmons around him this shouldn't be a problem against most teams. Rebounding will be a clear strength here, with all three front court starters (and four of the five in the rotation) being strong rebounders.
Entertainment
Webber plus the hints of the Princeton offense installed by Jordan (with Pete Carril's help) will make this team easily more entertaining as any in this draft not helmed by Adelman (and with all due respect I don't see entertainment being a strength Adelman's team in this draft). Barry, Sergio and Pinckney all bring energy and excitement off the bench as well. So I think this team should definitely be in the running for the "entertainment" crown.
Overall
This is simply an all around team. Five different players averaged more than one steal per game, and you know what they say about guys who get steals. (It's not that they're necessarily great defenders, but that higher steal counts are the best indicator for how much a player adds to a team's win total.) If you like just adding stat totals, this team averages 240 minutes almost exactly, so no adjustment is necessary. Their totals would be 115pts on 91fga, 49reb, 22ast, 10stl, 7blk, 16TO, 42WS and 16PER (pro-rated to minutes). I'd say that's pretty impressive. Overall, a great offense combined with a good defense and all around quality team makes these guys a threat to go all the way to the TDOS All Time Kings Fantasy Draft championship.
PF- Chris Webber (2000-01): 70gms 40.5min 27.1pts (.481 .071 .703) 11.1reb 4.2ast 1.3stl 1.7blk 2.8TO
SF- Lionel Simmons (1991-92): 79gms 37.1min 17.1pts (.454 .200 .770) 8.1reb 4.3ast 1.7stl 1.7blk 2.8TO
SG- Kevin Martin (2006-07): 80gms 35.2min 20.2pts (.473 .381 .844) 4.3reb 2.2ast 1.2stl 0.1blk 1.7TO
PG- Randy Brown (1992-93): 75gms 23.0min 7.6pts (.463 .333 .732) 2.8reb 2.6ast 1.4stl 0.5blk 1.6TO
BN- SG Jon Barry (1999-00): 62gms 20.1min 8.0pts (.465 .429 .922) 2.6reb 2.4ast 1.2stl 0.1blk 1.4TO
BN- PF/SF Ed Pinckney (1988-89): 51gms 24.2min 12.3pts (.502 .000 .801) 5.9reb 1.5ast 1.1stl 0.8blk 1.6TO
BN- C Bill Wennington (1990-91): 77gms 18.9mpg 5.7pts (.436 .200 .787) 4.4reb 0.9ast 0.6stl 0.8blk 0.7TO
BN- PG Sergio Rodriguez (2009-10): 39gms 13.3min 6.0pts (.463 .357 .694) 1.3reb 3.1ast 0.7stl 0.1blk 1.5TO
Coach- Eddie Jordan: 33-64 .340
Offense
Scoring is clearly a strength here. No team has both Peja and Webber, but Kevin Martin teamed with CWebb is a pretty great alternative. With Eddie Jordan as the coach installing some of the Princeton principles, you know Martin's offensive game will be improved (and even more efficient) with Webber finding him for open shots. Our SF isn't a three point shooter, but Jon Barry shot .429 from 3 on 2.5 attempts per game. He'll get plenty of open looks in this system, too. And there are capable passers everywhere you look, which will help as well. The rest of the players are all capable of scoring when necessary, so there will be no problem with offense on this team.
Defense
On defense, they might just be good rather than great, but they'll be plenty good. Randy Brown at the point and Webber in the middle are clearly above average defenders (this is CWebb as his younger, more athletic self). LTrain was still young and had decent knees, so he and Polynice keep things respectable. Martin was a poor defender but with Brown and Simmons around him this shouldn't be a problem against most teams. Rebounding will be a clear strength here, with all three front court starters (and four of the five in the rotation) being strong rebounders.
Entertainment
Webber plus the hints of the Princeton offense installed by Jordan (with Pete Carril's help) will make this team easily more entertaining as any in this draft not helmed by Adelman (and with all due respect I don't see entertainment being a strength Adelman's team in this draft). Barry, Sergio and Pinckney all bring energy and excitement off the bench as well. So I think this team should definitely be in the running for the "entertainment" crown.
Overall
This is simply an all around team. Five different players averaged more than one steal per game, and you know what they say about guys who get steals. (It's not that they're necessarily great defenders, but that higher steal counts are the best indicator for how much a player adds to a team's win total.) If you like just adding stat totals, this team averages 240 minutes almost exactly, so no adjustment is necessary. Their totals would be 115pts on 91fga, 49reb, 22ast, 10stl, 7blk, 16TO, 42WS and 16PER (pro-rated to minutes). I'd say that's pretty impressive. Overall, a great offense combined with a good defense and all around quality team makes these guys a threat to go all the way to the TDOS All Time Kings Fantasy Draft championship.
Do not fear, I am around. Ok. So just going to put a noontime cutoff on any changes/trades/whatever (let's call it 12:30 boardtime, tipoff of the USA/Dominican game), then after that people need to send me their ranking lists via conversation.
Remember here are what we need to rank:
1) list of their top 3 choices for best offensive team
2) list of their top 3 choices for best defensive team
3) list of their top 3 choices for most entertaining team to watch
4) a list of what they think the record of each of the other 11 other teams would be in the NBA if they were the Kings team we were fielding this year. So Team 1 44-38, team B 32-50, Team C 73-9 etc. etc.
Remember here are what we need to rank:
1) list of their top 3 choices for best offensive team
2) list of their top 3 choices for best defensive team
3) list of their top 3 choices for most entertaining team to watch
4) a list of what they think the record of each of the other 11 other teams would be in the NBA if they were the Kings team we were fielding this year. So Team 1 44-38, team B 32-50, Team C 73-9 etc. etc.
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And simply:
C-Demarcus Cousins
PF- Keon Clark
SF- Ron Artest
SG- John Salmons
PG- Beno Udrih
SG/SF- Dennis Hopson
PF- Lawrence Funderburke
PG- Rory Sparrow
C- Jawann Oldham
Coach: Phil Johnson
DeCousins (2013-14): 71gms 32.4min 22.7pts (.496 .000 .726) 11.7rebs 2.9ast 1.5stl 1.3blk 3.5TO
Ron Artest (2006-07): 70gms 37.7min 18.8pts (.440 .358 .740) 6.5reb 3.4ast 2.1stl 0.6blk 2.1TO
JoSalmons (2008-09): 53gms 37.4mpg 18.3pts (.472 .418 .823) 4.2reb 3.7ast 1.1stl 0.2btl 2.3TO
BenoUdrih (2010-11): 79gms 34.6min 13.7pts (.500 .357 .864) 3.4reb 4.9ast 1.2stl 0.1blk 1.8TO
DeHopson (1991-92): 69gms 18.9min 10.7pts (.465 .255 .708) 3.0reb 1.5ast 1.0stl 0.6blk 1.4TO
R Sparrow (1990-91): 80gms 29.7min 10.4pts (.491 .397 .699) 2.3reb 4.5ast 1.0stl 0.2blk 1.6TO
Fundburke (1998-99): 47gm*19.9min 8.9pts (.559 .200 .708) 4.7reb 0.6ast 0.5stl 0.5blk 1.1TO
Keon Clark (2002-03): 80gms 22.3min 6.7pts (.501 .000 .656) 5.6reb 1.0ast 0.5stl 1.9blk 1.2TO
JwOldham (1987-88): 54gms 17.5min 5.5pts (.476 .000 .678) 5.6reb 0.6ast 0.2stl 2.0blk 1.1TO
*47 of 50 (strike shortened season)
Coach Phil Johnson: 51-77 .398, 1x Playoffs
-- Well I certainly made this team less "interesting" than it could have been. After setting up the initial Boogie/Ron pairing I repeatedly passed on spicier personnel that would have made for a fun team to take solid, efficient, mature players. I still have more than my fair share of trouble, but really starting with my Beno pick I started angling for real team construction. I put together enough ballhandlers to get it done by committee (Beno, Sparrow, Salmons, Ron, Cousins), 2 solid efficient PGs (who represent the only real defensive weak point), long disruptive defenders from SG through PF. A backup scoring big man for the times when Cousins is out of the game. Adequate, although certainly not spectacular three points shooting. Multiple shotblockers of course. As close to a "solid" coach as you re likely to get in a Kings draft. Boring perhaps. But all designed to support and not trip up the initial Bully Boys pairing.
C-Demarcus Cousins
PF- Keon Clark
SF- Ron Artest
SG- John Salmons
PG- Beno Udrih
SG/SF- Dennis Hopson
PF- Lawrence Funderburke
PG- Rory Sparrow
C- Jawann Oldham
Coach: Phil Johnson
DeCousins (2013-14): 71gms 32.4min 22.7pts (.496 .000 .726) 11.7rebs 2.9ast 1.5stl 1.3blk 3.5TO
Ron Artest (2006-07): 70gms 37.7min 18.8pts (.440 .358 .740) 6.5reb 3.4ast 2.1stl 0.6blk 2.1TO
JoSalmons (2008-09): 53gms 37.4mpg 18.3pts (.472 .418 .823) 4.2reb 3.7ast 1.1stl 0.2btl 2.3TO
BenoUdrih (2010-11): 79gms 34.6min 13.7pts (.500 .357 .864) 3.4reb 4.9ast 1.2stl 0.1blk 1.8TO
DeHopson (1991-92): 69gms 18.9min 10.7pts (.465 .255 .708) 3.0reb 1.5ast 1.0stl 0.6blk 1.4TO
R Sparrow (1990-91): 80gms 29.7min 10.4pts (.491 .397 .699) 2.3reb 4.5ast 1.0stl 0.2blk 1.6TO
Fundburke (1998-99): 47gm*19.9min 8.9pts (.559 .200 .708) 4.7reb 0.6ast 0.5stl 0.5blk 1.1TO
Keon Clark (2002-03): 80gms 22.3min 6.7pts (.501 .000 .656) 5.6reb 1.0ast 0.5stl 1.9blk 1.2TO
JwOldham (1987-88): 54gms 17.5min 5.5pts (.476 .000 .678) 5.6reb 0.6ast 0.2stl 2.0blk 1.1TO
*47 of 50 (strike shortened season)
Coach Phil Johnson: 51-77 .398, 1x Playoffs
-- Well I certainly made this team less "interesting" than it could have been. After setting up the initial Boogie/Ron pairing I repeatedly passed on spicier personnel that would have made for a fun team to take solid, efficient, mature players. I still have more than my fair share of trouble, but really starting with my Beno pick I started angling for real team construction. I put together enough ballhandlers to get it done by committee (Beno, Sparrow, Salmons, Ron, Cousins), 2 solid efficient PGs (who represent the only real defensive weak point), long disruptive defenders from SG through PF. A backup scoring big man for the times when Cousins is out of the game. Adequate, although certainly not spectacular three points shooting. Multiple shotblockers of course. As close to a "solid" coach as you re likely to get in a Kings draft. Boring perhaps. But all designed to support and not trip up the initial Bully Boys pairing.
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Coach: Reggie Theus: 44-62 .415
Starting Lineup:
PG: Spud Webb (1991-92):77gms 35.4min 16.0pts (.445 .367 .859) 2.9rebs 7.1ast 1.6stl 0.3blk 3.0TO
SG: Eddie Johnson (1986-87): 81gms 30.3min 18.7pts (.463 .314 .829) 4.4rebs 3.1ast 0.5stl 0.2blk 2.0TO
SF: Corliss Williamson (1997-98): 79gms 35.7min 17.7pts (.495 .000 .630) 5.6rebs 2.9ast 1.0stl 0.6blk 2.5TO
PF: Chris Webber (2000-01): 70gms 40.5min 27.1pts (.481 .071 .703) 11.1rebs 4.2ast 1.3stl 1.7blk 2.8TO
C: LaSalle Thompson (1985-86): 80gmss 29.7min 12.8pts (.518 .000 .732) 9.6reb 2.1ast 0.9stl 1.4blk 2.3TO
Backup Guard: PG/SG Sarunas Marciulionis (1995-96): 52gms 19.6min 10.8pts (.452 .408 .775) 1.5rebs 2.2ast 1.0stl 0.1blk 1.8TO
Backup Big: PF Darius Songalia (2004-05): 81gms 20.6min 7.5pts (.527 .000 .847) 4.2reb 1.4ast 0.6stl 0.2blk 0.9TO
Backup Wing: G/F Omri Casspi (2009-10): 77gms 25.1min 10.3pts (.446 .369 .672) 4.5reb 1.2ast 0.7stl 0.2blk 1.3TO
Backup Big 2: PF Jon Brockman (2009-10): 52gms 12.6min 2.8pts (.534 .000 .597) 4.1reb 0.4ast 0.3stl 0.1blk 0.4TO
Why you like this team: Points! Starters are averaging 92.3 per game (and let's not mention the 40.2 per game from the bench) That's 132.5 points per game!
Also, everyone has a FG% over 40%... not too shabby...
And let's not forget the relentless dunks...
Starting Lineup:
PG: Spud Webb (1991-92):77gms 35.4min 16.0pts (.445 .367 .859) 2.9rebs 7.1ast 1.6stl 0.3blk 3.0TO
SG: Eddie Johnson (1986-87): 81gms 30.3min 18.7pts (.463 .314 .829) 4.4rebs 3.1ast 0.5stl 0.2blk 2.0TO
SF: Corliss Williamson (1997-98): 79gms 35.7min 17.7pts (.495 .000 .630) 5.6rebs 2.9ast 1.0stl 0.6blk 2.5TO
PF: Chris Webber (2000-01): 70gms 40.5min 27.1pts (.481 .071 .703) 11.1rebs 4.2ast 1.3stl 1.7blk 2.8TO
C: LaSalle Thompson (1985-86): 80gmss 29.7min 12.8pts (.518 .000 .732) 9.6reb 2.1ast 0.9stl 1.4blk 2.3TO
Backup Guard: PG/SG Sarunas Marciulionis (1995-96): 52gms 19.6min 10.8pts (.452 .408 .775) 1.5rebs 2.2ast 1.0stl 0.1blk 1.8TO
Backup Big: PF Darius Songalia (2004-05): 81gms 20.6min 7.5pts (.527 .000 .847) 4.2reb 1.4ast 0.6stl 0.2blk 0.9TO
Backup Wing: G/F Omri Casspi (2009-10): 77gms 25.1min 10.3pts (.446 .369 .672) 4.5reb 1.2ast 0.7stl 0.2blk 1.3TO
Backup Big 2: PF Jon Brockman (2009-10): 52gms 12.6min 2.8pts (.534 .000 .597) 4.1reb 0.4ast 0.3stl 0.1blk 0.4TO
Why you like this team: Points! Starters are averaging 92.3 per game (and let's not mention the 40.2 per game from the bench) That's 132.5 points per game!
Also, everyone has a FG% over 40%... not too shabby...
And let's not forget the relentless dunks...
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And my team writeup - short and simple as I don't have an awful lot of time:
PG - Isaiah Thomas
SG - Mitch Richmond
SF - Bonzi Wells
PF - Otis Thorpe
C - Vlade Divac
Bench:
6th Man: PG/SG - Cuttino Mobley
SF/PF - Billy Owens
PF/C - Brian Skinner
SG/SF - Derek Smith
Coach: Rex Hughes
I have a very versatile bench who can fill in multiple positions - that was intentional given that we need to make the most out of 4 bench spots. I'm starting Bonzi at the 3, but he's more than capable of doing that due to his physicality - he's a strong, relentless bully who will outrebound 90% of the league's SFs, as well as defend. I have IT at PG, not the most popular player in our history but certainly in the top 10, and possibly top 5, talent wise. On a veteran team, there's no doubt that he'll fall into place and take more of a backseat. Vlade, Mitch and co can easily sell him on sharing the ball more. Vlade is probably the best role player we've ever had and a huge influence on team chemistry, so you just know our team will stick together when the going gets tough. Thorpe is Webber-lite and a perfect fit next to Vlade - that type of partnership is already proven (Thorpe put up 20/10/3, lest people forget how good he was). I don't think I need to say anything about Mitch - our biggest offensive threat who plays both sides of the ball and will lead us to glory. I also have that necessary defensive big man in Skinner who can come off the bench, bring an interior presence and block shots. Cuttino's ability to light it up is ideal off the bench, especially when you consider that Owens and Smith are both willing and talented passers. I just don't see how anyone elses team matches up to our talent and depth.
I didn't calculate fancy win shares, ppg or anything like that as I didn't have the time, but I believe Jespher already calculated our PPG whilst he was figuring out where his teams offense lies, and we came out number 1 in PPG out of all teams. Not a surprise, we're offensively potent but we also defend. Pick your poison...
Here's my teams stats for anyone that wants to take another glance:
C Vlade Divac (1998-99): 50gms (of 50) 35.2min 14.3pts (.470 .256 .702) 10.0rebs 4.3ast 0.9stl 1.0blk 2.6TO
SG Bonzi Wells (2005-06): 52gms 32.4min 13.6pts (.463 .222 .679) 7.7rebs 2.8ast 1.8stl 0.5blk 2.4TO
PF Otis Thorpe (1987-88): 82gms 37.5min 20.8pts (.507 .000 .755) 10.2rebs 3.2ast 0.8stl 0.7blk 2.8TO
SG Cutino Mobley (2004-05): 43gms 38.7mpg 17.8ppg (.440 .424 .831) 3.9rpg 3.4apg 1.2stl 0.5bpg 2.1TO
PG Isaiah Thomas (2013-14): 72gms 34.7mpg 20.3ppg (.453 .349 .850) 2.9rpg 6.3apg 1.3spg 0.1bpg 3.0TO
SF Billy Owens (1997-98): 78gms 30.1min 10.5ppg (.464 .371 .589) 7.5rpg 2.8apg 1.2spg 0.5bpg 2.0TO
PF Brian Skinner (2004-05): 25gms 27.8min 7.4ppg (.554 .000 .377) 8.7rpg 1.5apg 1.7bpg 1.0spg 1.1TO
SG/SF Derek Smith (1986-87): 52gms 31.9mins 16.6ppg (.446 .273 .781) 3.5rpg 3.9apg 0.9spg 0.4bpg 2.4TO
SG Mitch Richmond: 81gms 38.6mins 25.9ppg (.454 .428 .861) 3.9rebs 4.2apg 1.5spg 0.3bpg 2.9TO
Coach Rex Hughes: 22-35 .386
PG - Isaiah Thomas
SG - Mitch Richmond
SF - Bonzi Wells
PF - Otis Thorpe
C - Vlade Divac
Bench:
6th Man: PG/SG - Cuttino Mobley
SF/PF - Billy Owens
PF/C - Brian Skinner
SG/SF - Derek Smith
Coach: Rex Hughes
I have a very versatile bench who can fill in multiple positions - that was intentional given that we need to make the most out of 4 bench spots. I'm starting Bonzi at the 3, but he's more than capable of doing that due to his physicality - he's a strong, relentless bully who will outrebound 90% of the league's SFs, as well as defend. I have IT at PG, not the most popular player in our history but certainly in the top 10, and possibly top 5, talent wise. On a veteran team, there's no doubt that he'll fall into place and take more of a backseat. Vlade, Mitch and co can easily sell him on sharing the ball more. Vlade is probably the best role player we've ever had and a huge influence on team chemistry, so you just know our team will stick together when the going gets tough. Thorpe is Webber-lite and a perfect fit next to Vlade - that type of partnership is already proven (Thorpe put up 20/10/3, lest people forget how good he was). I don't think I need to say anything about Mitch - our biggest offensive threat who plays both sides of the ball and will lead us to glory. I also have that necessary defensive big man in Skinner who can come off the bench, bring an interior presence and block shots. Cuttino's ability to light it up is ideal off the bench, especially when you consider that Owens and Smith are both willing and talented passers. I just don't see how anyone elses team matches up to our talent and depth.
I didn't calculate fancy win shares, ppg or anything like that as I didn't have the time, but I believe Jespher already calculated our PPG whilst he was figuring out where his teams offense lies, and we came out number 1 in PPG out of all teams. Not a surprise, we're offensively potent but we also defend. Pick your poison...
Here's my teams stats for anyone that wants to take another glance:
C Vlade Divac (1998-99): 50gms (of 50) 35.2min 14.3pts (.470 .256 .702) 10.0rebs 4.3ast 0.9stl 1.0blk 2.6TO
SG Bonzi Wells (2005-06): 52gms 32.4min 13.6pts (.463 .222 .679) 7.7rebs 2.8ast 1.8stl 0.5blk 2.4TO
PF Otis Thorpe (1987-88): 82gms 37.5min 20.8pts (.507 .000 .755) 10.2rebs 3.2ast 0.8stl 0.7blk 2.8TO
SG Cutino Mobley (2004-05): 43gms 38.7mpg 17.8ppg (.440 .424 .831) 3.9rpg 3.4apg 1.2stl 0.5bpg 2.1TO
PG Isaiah Thomas (2013-14): 72gms 34.7mpg 20.3ppg (.453 .349 .850) 2.9rpg 6.3apg 1.3spg 0.1bpg 3.0TO
SF Billy Owens (1997-98): 78gms 30.1min 10.5ppg (.464 .371 .589) 7.5rpg 2.8apg 1.2spg 0.5bpg 2.0TO
PF Brian Skinner (2004-05): 25gms 27.8min 7.4ppg (.554 .000 .377) 8.7rpg 1.5apg 1.7bpg 1.0spg 1.1TO
SG/SF Derek Smith (1986-87): 52gms 31.9mins 16.6ppg (.446 .273 .781) 3.5rpg 3.9apg 0.9spg 0.4bpg 2.4TO
SG Mitch Richmond: 81gms 38.6mins 25.9ppg (.454 .428 .861) 3.9rebs 4.2apg 1.5spg 0.3bpg 2.9TO
Coach Rex Hughes: 22-35 .386
I'm not going to delve into stats and numbers here because A: don't have the time B: it's not remotely my strong point and C: I think it's fairly useless in this exercise anyway. We're mashing together guys from several decades of Kings history, most who never met each other let alone played together and expecting their numbers to stay the same? Besides, taking numbers literally means I force poor coach Motta to decide which single game over an 82 game schedule he gets to use his back-up center. For my purposes, as self-serving as that position proves to be, I'm imagining I'm starting an 82 game schedule fresh with these guys, time warped in from the season I selected them, on my roster.
Starting Line-up
C: Brian Grant
PF: Shareef Abdur-Rahim
SF: Gerald Wallace
SG: Mitch Richmond
PG: Bobby Jackson
Bench6th Man: Doug Christie
PF/C: Drew Gooden
PF: Reggie Evans
PG: Tony Delk
Coach: Dick Motta
I am at least giving myself the handicap of keeping Gooden on the bench rather than plugging the closest thing I have on the roster to a true center (again, closest) into the starting line-up because I admit, picking him up is a bit of a cheat. But I still expect him to contribute more than a single game's worth of work for me. Similarly, I both don't expect Abdur-Rahim and Wallace's contributions to be so limited (as a limited starter/6th man and garbage time superstar respectively) nor them to be the All-Stars one once was and the other would become. I expect both to have different and bigger roles on my team than they did when they were actual Kings and their numbers to adjust accordingly. As much as numbers can adjust in the land of make-believe.
That said, my starting line-up here is really just a "default line-up" with most every one in his "true position" with the exception of Grant at center, where he actually excelled late in his career with Miami filling in for Alonzo Mourning. However, I don't regard it as the "main" line-up or anything. Actually, my team doesn't have a main line-up and if I think about it, only Mitch's name should be written in pen at his position on the roster card. I took a team of role-players to maximize flexibility and creativity. Grant, Abdur-Rahim and Gooden can and did play all three front court positions in their careers. Jackson and Delk can play both guard spots. Wallace is versatile and dynamic enough to shift over to either SG or PF. Evans, well, Evans is just a brute to man the bully pulpit.
And then there's Christie. My co-captian. Starts on the bench, but I'd be surprised if he didn't get the lion's share of minutes. Technically the team's best distributor, can step in at PG. Can provide more shooting and defense taking over at SF. Can sub in for Mitch at SG without sacrificing too much while he rests, which will only serve to keep the Rock fresh.
Talent-wise, not the best team out there But they can adapt with multiple looks, have loads of scoring options and some solid, hard-nose defenders and whoever takes the court with them better be ready for a battle.
Starting Line-up
C: Brian Grant
PF: Shareef Abdur-Rahim
SF: Gerald Wallace
SG: Mitch Richmond
PG: Bobby Jackson
Bench6th Man: Doug Christie
PF/C: Drew Gooden
PF: Reggie Evans
PG: Tony Delk
Coach: Dick Motta
I am at least giving myself the handicap of keeping Gooden on the bench rather than plugging the closest thing I have on the roster to a true center (again, closest) into the starting line-up because I admit, picking him up is a bit of a cheat. But I still expect him to contribute more than a single game's worth of work for me. Similarly, I both don't expect Abdur-Rahim and Wallace's contributions to be so limited (as a limited starter/6th man and garbage time superstar respectively) nor them to be the All-Stars one once was and the other would become. I expect both to have different and bigger roles on my team than they did when they were actual Kings and their numbers to adjust accordingly. As much as numbers can adjust in the land of make-believe.
That said, my starting line-up here is really just a "default line-up" with most every one in his "true position" with the exception of Grant at center, where he actually excelled late in his career with Miami filling in for Alonzo Mourning. However, I don't regard it as the "main" line-up or anything. Actually, my team doesn't have a main line-up and if I think about it, only Mitch's name should be written in pen at his position on the roster card. I took a team of role-players to maximize flexibility and creativity. Grant, Abdur-Rahim and Gooden can and did play all three front court positions in their careers. Jackson and Delk can play both guard spots. Wallace is versatile and dynamic enough to shift over to either SG or PF. Evans, well, Evans is just a brute to man the bully pulpit.
And then there's Christie. My co-captian. Starts on the bench, but I'd be surprised if he didn't get the lion's share of minutes. Technically the team's best distributor, can step in at PG. Can provide more shooting and defense taking over at SF. Can sub in for Mitch at SG without sacrificing too much while he rests, which will only serve to keep the Rock fresh.
Talent-wise, not the best team out there But they can adapt with multiple looks, have loads of scoring options and some solid, hard-nose defenders and whoever takes the court with them better be ready for a battle.
C) DeMarcus Cousins
PF) Patrick Patterson
SF) Rudy Gay
SG) Nick Anderson
PG) Kenny Smith
BENCH) Ray McCallum
BENCH) Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf
BENCH) Quincy Acy
BENCH) Cole Aldrich
COACH) Gary St. Jean
Rotation:
PG - Smith, McCallum
SG - Anderson, Abdul-Rauf
SF - Gay, Acy
PF - Patterson, Acy/Aldrich
C - Cousins, Aldrich
PF) Patrick Patterson
SF) Rudy Gay
SG) Nick Anderson
PG) Kenny Smith
BENCH) Ray McCallum
BENCH) Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf
BENCH) Quincy Acy
BENCH) Cole Aldrich
COACH) Gary St. Jean
Rotation:
PG - Smith, McCallum
SG - Anderson, Abdul-Rauf
SF - Gay, Acy
PF - Patterson, Acy/Aldrich
C - Cousins, Aldrich
Starters
C/PF Jason Thompson (2011-12): 64gms 25.9min 9.1pts (.535 .000 .602) 6.9reb 1.2ast 0.7stl 0.7blk 1.1TO
PF Chris Webber (2000-01): 70gms 40.5min 27.1pts (.481 .071 .703) 11.1reb 4.2ast 1.3stl 1.7blk 2.8TO
SF Terry Tyler (1985-86): 71gms 23.3min 9.5pts (.455 .000 .750) 4.4reb 1.3ast 0.9stl 1.5blk 1.3TO
SG Mike Woodson (1985-86): 81gms 29.8min 15.6pts (.475 .154 .837) 2.8reb 2.4ast 1.1stl 0.5blk 1.8TO
PG Jason Williams (1999-00): 81gms 34.1min 12.3pts (.373 .287 .753) 2.8reb 7.3ast 1.4stl 0.1blk 3.7TO
Bench
C Joe Kleine (1987-88): 82gms 24.4min 9.8pts (.472 .000 .814) 7.1reb 1.1ast 0.3stl 0.7blk 1.3TO
SF/PF Andres Nocioni (2009-10): 78gms 19.7min 8.5pts (.399 .386 .717) 3.0reb 1.0ast 0.4stl 0.3blk 0.9TO
PG Anthony Johnson (1997-98): 77gms 29.4min 7.5pts (.370 .734 .328) 2.2reb 4.3ass 0.8stl 0.1blk 1.6TO
SG/SF Vinny Del Negro (1989-90): 76gms 24.4min 9.7pts (.462 .313 .871) 2.6reb 3.3ast 0.8stl 0.1blk 1.5TO
Coach Bill Russell: 17-41 .293
Jason Thompson and Chris Webber play 36 minutes a game. Joe Kleine gets the other 24 big man minutes (playing C whenever he's in), unless there is a need to go small, in which case Andres Nocioni plays the PF with one of the other bigs.
Normally, Terrry Tyler plays 30 minutes at SF and Andres Nocioni the other 18. In games where a small lineup is used and Nocioni is playing some PF, then Tyler gets more minutes or Vinny Del Negro gets minutes at SF.
Jason Williams and Mike Woodson get 36 minutes at the guards. Anthony Johnson is the backup at PG and Vinny Del Negro is the backup at SG.
Billl Russell is one of my all-time favorite players, and he was a great coach with the Celtics, but he was terrible when with the Kings. We paid enough to rent the name, but not enough to get him to care. I'm going to call on Hall of Fame player and former Cincinnati Royals coach Bob Cousy to be an assistant. Between Cousy and future coaches Woodson and Del Negro, they can cover the coaching while Russell is on the golf course.
This team has arguably the two best passers in Sacramento Kings history. They're not the strongest team in terms of shooting, but Williams and Webber can set up set up Woodson for open shots on the wing while getting their points, and the others will get open looks when the primary scorers are doubled. The team can go to a small lineup if necessary, and they're strong defensively.
C/PF Jason Thompson (2011-12): 64gms 25.9min 9.1pts (.535 .000 .602) 6.9reb 1.2ast 0.7stl 0.7blk 1.1TO
PF Chris Webber (2000-01): 70gms 40.5min 27.1pts (.481 .071 .703) 11.1reb 4.2ast 1.3stl 1.7blk 2.8TO
SF Terry Tyler (1985-86): 71gms 23.3min 9.5pts (.455 .000 .750) 4.4reb 1.3ast 0.9stl 1.5blk 1.3TO
SG Mike Woodson (1985-86): 81gms 29.8min 15.6pts (.475 .154 .837) 2.8reb 2.4ast 1.1stl 0.5blk 1.8TO
PG Jason Williams (1999-00): 81gms 34.1min 12.3pts (.373 .287 .753) 2.8reb 7.3ast 1.4stl 0.1blk 3.7TO
Bench
C Joe Kleine (1987-88): 82gms 24.4min 9.8pts (.472 .000 .814) 7.1reb 1.1ast 0.3stl 0.7blk 1.3TO
SF/PF Andres Nocioni (2009-10): 78gms 19.7min 8.5pts (.399 .386 .717) 3.0reb 1.0ast 0.4stl 0.3blk 0.9TO
PG Anthony Johnson (1997-98): 77gms 29.4min 7.5pts (.370 .734 .328) 2.2reb 4.3ass 0.8stl 0.1blk 1.6TO
SG/SF Vinny Del Negro (1989-90): 76gms 24.4min 9.7pts (.462 .313 .871) 2.6reb 3.3ast 0.8stl 0.1blk 1.5TO
Coach Bill Russell: 17-41 .293
Jason Thompson and Chris Webber play 36 minutes a game. Joe Kleine gets the other 24 big man minutes (playing C whenever he's in), unless there is a need to go small, in which case Andres Nocioni plays the PF with one of the other bigs.
Normally, Terrry Tyler plays 30 minutes at SF and Andres Nocioni the other 18. In games where a small lineup is used and Nocioni is playing some PF, then Tyler gets more minutes or Vinny Del Negro gets minutes at SF.
Jason Williams and Mike Woodson get 36 minutes at the guards. Anthony Johnson is the backup at PG and Vinny Del Negro is the backup at SG.
Billl Russell is one of my all-time favorite players, and he was a great coach with the Celtics, but he was terrible when with the Kings. We paid enough to rent the name, but not enough to get him to care. I'm going to call on Hall of Fame player and former Cincinnati Royals coach Bob Cousy to be an assistant. Between Cousy and future coaches Woodson and Del Negro, they can cover the coaching while Russell is on the golf course.
This team has arguably the two best passers in Sacramento Kings history. They're not the strongest team in terms of shooting, but Williams and Webber can set up set up Woodson for open shots on the wing while getting their points, and the others will get open looks when the primary scorers are doubled. The team can go to a small lineup if necessary, and they're strong defensively.
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