Possible Blockbuster?

piksi · Jan 28, 2005

Heuge said:

That is exactly what I am saying.

Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Garnett, Nowitzki

That is it.

Heuge · Jan 28, 2005

piksi said:

That type of logic makes Mark "Mad Dog" Madsen a superstar.

Kev.in · Jan 28, 2005

Paul Pierce, 02-03 playoffs: 10 games, 27.1ppg, 9rpg, 6.7apg, 2.1stl.

Just throwing that out there.

piksi · Jan 28, 2005

Kev.in said:

how about his last years play offs numbers ?

Kev.in · Jan 28, 2005

piksi said:

Well, they weren't his best, but I can post those too.

'03-'04: 4 games, 20.8ppg, 8.8rpg, 2.5apg, 1.25stl
I think they got swept by Indiana in the first round that year? And they were all blowout losses because they were overmatched up front?

Ryle · Jan 28, 2005

Kev.in said:

Included in those games was a 9 point "pejaesque" output from Pierce. Had games of 27 pts and 7 rbs. and 27 points and 11 rbs as well.

Heuge · Jan 28, 2005

Kev.in said:

Now Pedja... 17.5ppg 7.0rpg 1.5 apg 1.8 stl

piksi · Jan 28, 2005

Kev.in said:

and he shot in low 40%. Also You did not mentioned turnovers. There is always an excuse for being swept.

piksi · Jan 28, 2005

Heuge said:

Sure but I never claimed that Pedja was a superstar.

What are Pedja's numbers when Webber did not play. Have not been many games but there is a big difference when You play with "Iverson" and when You do not.

Heuge · Jan 28, 2005

piksi said:

Wasn't Pedja less then 40% also.

Folsom Al · Jan 28, 2005

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keflanag · Jan 28, 2005

piksi said:

A week ago, Minnesota was a sub 0.500 team. Does that mean KG isn't a superstar?

acisking · Jan 28, 2005

piksi said:

I agree with piksi that Peja might be a little more effective offensively on the Kings since Pierce is a volume shooter and would have to shoot a higher percentage. However, Pierce is most certainly a much better all-around player than Peja is. He is known to have the clutch ability (5 shots out of a 100 is better than airballs in the western conference finals) and is a significantly better defensively. Peja happens to be one of my favorite players but Pierce is obviously a little better of a player overall.

acisking · Jan 28, 2005

piksi said:

Why does everything come back to webber? Peja has played with Webber almost his entire career. Before Webber's big injury, Peja still had a habit of fading in the playoffs. Whether Webb is there or not, Peja seems to have drops in his statistics in the postseason. The truth is that he is not a proven playoff performer at this stage of his career - a fact that cannot be blamed on anyone else.

Ryle · Jan 28, 2005

acisking said:

Why does everything come back to webber? Peja has played with Webber almost his entire career. Before Webber's big injury, Peja still had a habit of fading in the playoffs. Whether Webb is there or not, Peja seems to have drops in his statistics in the postseason. The truth is that he is not a proven playoff performer at this stage of his career - a fact that cannot be blamed on anyone else.

Well, according to some people Webber is the devil

MyKidsDad · Jan 28, 2005

Just for fun...

Atlanta trades:
PF Antoine Walker (20.0 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 3.7 apg in 40.2 minutes)
Atlanta receives:
PF Chris Webber (21.4 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 5.0 apg in 35.6 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +1.4 ppg, +0.1 rpg, and +1.3 apg.
Boston trades:
SF Paul Pierce (21.9 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 4.2 apg in 36.2 minutes)
Boston receives:
SF Peja Stojakovic (20.3 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 39.1 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -1.6 ppg, -2.5 rpg, and -2.4 apg.
Sacramento trades:
PF Chris Webber (21.4 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 5.0 apg in 35.6 minutes)
SF Peja Stojakovic (20.3 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 39.1 minutes)
Sacramento receives:
PF Antoine Walker (20.0 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 3.7 apg in 40.2 minutes)
SF Paul Pierce (21.9 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 4.2 apg in 36.2 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +0.2 ppg, +2.4 rpg, and +1.1 apg.
TRADE ACCEPTED

Would you do it?

mcsluggo · Jan 28, 2005

Because Walker and Pierce have established that together they are an unstoppable force, right?

It should be the Kings goal to rebuild themselves in the image of the 2002 Celtics

Heuge · Jan 28, 2005

Walker is terrible!

Ryle · Jan 28, 2005

MyKidsDad said:

Just for fun...

Atlanta trades:
PF Antoine Walker (20.0 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 3.7 apg in 40.2 minutes)
Atlanta receives:
PF Chris Webber (21.4 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 5.0 apg in 35.6 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +1.4 ppg, +0.1 rpg, and +1.3 apg.
Boston trades:
SF Paul Pierce (21.9 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 4.2 apg in 36.2 minutes)
Boston receives:
SF Peja Stojakovic (20.3 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 39.1 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -1.6 ppg, -2.5 rpg, and -2.4 apg.
Sacramento trades:
PF Chris Webber (21.4 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 5.0 apg in 35.6 minutes)
SF Peja Stojakovic (20.3 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 39.1 minutes)
Sacramento receives:
PF Antoine Walker (20.0 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 3.7 apg in 40.2 minutes)
SF Paul Pierce (21.9 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 4.2 apg in 36.2 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +0.2 ppg, +2.4 rpg, and +1.1 apg.
TRADE ACCEPTED

Would you do it?

I'm cursing Folsom Al right now for giving out realgm.com.

That actually would be a good trade if we just wanted to throw away this season.

acisking · Jan 28, 2005

lololol - well said

MyKidsDad · Jan 28, 2005

Boston made it to the Eastern Conference finals two years in a row with those two and who else did they have? Tony Delk, Bimbo Coles, Mark Blount, etc.

Certainly not Bibby, Cat, and Miller caliber players.

I wouldn't trade Webber for Walker straight up but to make the salaries work you've got to give up a big salary (or half your team).

Gary · Jan 28, 2005

Yikes... NO WAY!! Walker is not as good as Webber.

Twix · Jan 28, 2005

Ryle said:

I agree!!

Please..NO WALKER for me! He's known as one of the worst/overrated NBA players. He jacks up 3s when he can't even make most of them!?

G_M · Jan 28, 2005

Webber has a no trade clause in his contract. Do you really think hre would accept a trade to Atlanta?

Maybe NY or Miami.

Bibby_10 · Jan 28, 2005

I think Peja is a great player, but for the good of the team it would be beneficial to get Paul Pierce in the lineup. Assuming there is any hope of doing so. Besides, we all know Peja isnt happy here. He wants to be traded so Petrie should do both Peja and the team a favor and trade him for Pierce.

L.A. resident - Kings Fan

WalMatt23 · Jan 28, 2005

G_M said:

didnt Webb buy a nice home in atlanta recently?

NY seems the most plausible team that we could send Webb too though...

Bibby_10 · Jan 28, 2005

If the Hawks let us have Walker for nothing and agreed to continue paying his contract while he played for the Kings I still wouldnt take him. No Walker, No Payton. We want to improve the team not send it down the toilet.

L.A. resident - Kings Fan

PT Cruiser 9ROC · Jan 28, 2005

MyKidsDad said:

Key words: EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS

The years that the Celtics actually went anywhere in the playoffs were the years in which the the Eastern Conference reached the peak of it's mediocrity as compared to the Western Conference. That stretch of time was a period in which the Western Conference Finals were considered "The Real NBA Finals," no matter who played that year. You proposed possibly the most horrible trade in Sacramento Kings history, no offense. People complain about volume shooters, and you bring up one of the worst offenders in the entire league. Antoine Walker is a step backward in a search for a championship. You saw how he did as a Western Conference forward last year with Dallas; he doesn't hold a candle to the likes of Duncan, Garnett, Webber, Brand, and even Kenyon Martin. And yes, folsomAl, that was a bad idea bringing that site to the attention of the masses. Just look at the RealGM forums. In all my time perusing that site, there was maybe 2 or 3 decent trades proposed out of hundreds and thousands of insanely awful ones. Remember: "With great power comes great responsibility." We'll forgive you this time, lol.

Twix · Jan 28, 2005

WalMatt23 said:

Yeah he did. But he said that it was for a family member or something. He said he has lots of family and friends living in/closeby Atlanta.

Variant · Jan 28, 2005

I would love to have Pierce... but any mention of Antoine Walker gives me the heebie jeebies. I do *not* want him on this team.

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