Dan Walters - Bee 8/11

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http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/basketball/kings/story/14293878p-15136281c.html
By Dan Walters -- Bee Columnist
Published 12:01 am PDT Friday, August 11, 2006
Story appeared on Page A3 of The Bee

The San Jose Sharks, a professional hockey team that plays its home games in the city-owned HP Pavilion, pays several hundred thousand dollars in a year in what's called "possessory interest tax" to local governments.

And what, one might ask, is a "possessory interest"? State law defines it this way: "Possession of, claim to, or right to the possession of land or improvements that is independent, durable, and exclusive of rights held by others in the property, except when coupled with ownership of the land or improvements in the same person."

In layman's language, that means that when someone holds a long-term right to use publicly owned property, which is exempt from direct property taxes, the state assumes that the tenant is, in effect, the owner and must pay property taxes accordingly.

The Sharks have a long-term lease to use HP Pavilion and therefore must pay the possessory interest tax. And they are not alone. Throughout the state, local tax authorities collect possessory interest taxes on tens of billions of dollars in leaseholder valuations.

Part of the Staples Arena complex in downtown Los Angeles is on city property, so its owners pay possessory interest taxes. Families that own cabins on lots leased from the Forest Service pay possessory interest taxes, as do ranchers who graze cattle on public lands, boaters with docks on rivers and lakes, aerospace companies that use military equipment, airlines that occupy space at airports, and shipping lines at ports -- even concessionaires at the State Fair that opens today.

The principle behind the possessory interest tax is perfectly simple, rational and fair: Just because property is publicly owned and off the tax rolls, someone who uses it -- especially someone who uses it to earn a profit -- shouldn't escape paying a fair share of the property taxes that support local governments and schools.

And that brings us, inevitably, to the deal that Sacramento city and county politicians have cooked up with the Kings basketball team to build a new downtown arena.

As envisioned, the arena project would cost about a half-billion dollars and be financed with a quarter-cent increase in the local sales tax, if voters give their approval in November. The arena would be leased to the Kings for a nominal $4 million a year, less than 1 percent of the facility's cost, and the Kings would be entitled to all revenues, even for nonsporting events, that it generates.

By those terms, it amounts to a hugely lucrative deal for the Kings and their owners, the Maloof family, since an arms-length commercial lease would cost at least seven or eight times as much.

But there's still more. A brief clause in the agreement that the local politicos made with the Kings says that the joint powers authority to be created by the city of Sacramento and the county of Sacramento would assume payment of possessory interest taxes, and the negotiators say they don't know how much it would be.

As with many other aspects of the deal, however, its boosters are being less than forthright because if they know how much the arena would cost, at least in round numbers, they know fairly well how much the possessory interest tax would be. It doesn't take a rocket scientist, or a CPA, to figure it out -- especially in a situation as clear-cut as this one, wherein the Kings would have sole possession of the arena for decades.

Tax authorities say that in such cases, the local assessor would assume, for tax purposes, that the Maloofs own the arena and apply the statewide property tax rate of 1 percent, plus whatever must be set aside for local bonds and other obligations, to its full value. So if the arena were valued at $500 million, the possessory interest tax would be about 1.25 percent of that amount, or a little over $6 million a year.

It is, in effect, another $6 million-plus annual subsidy to the Kings, amounting, in fact, to about 10 percent of the estimated $60 million a year that the sales tax would generate.

And it would go on for the entire length of the 30-year lease, even though the sales tax would expire after 15 years. Thirty years times $6 million equals $180 million being transferred from taxpayers' pockets into the Maloofs' bank account.

Such a deal.
 
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Now the priceless gem in all of this is one of the online comments this article elicited:

Jkbiker at 9:14 AM PST Friday, August 11, 2006 wrote:
Jerry Kumpf CPA

Maybe it does take a CPA to figure the Possessory Interest Tax. The County Assessor Site is very clear, the tax is not based upon the current value of the Arena, it is based upon the Future Rent and Operating expenses of the Arena and is then calculated using a cap rate over the term of the lease. The assessor site says this calculation is always significantly less than normal property tax that you calculated using the 500 Million Value. Another article in the Bee shows that the JPA ib the Bay area only pays $500,000 per year. The estimated Possessory tax is 500,000 to 1 Million per year and was included in the negotiated rent of 3-4 million per year. What hard information from the assessor do you have that indicates the possessory Interest tax would be 6 million ?
Any bets on whether Dan Walters will admit this huge error?:rolleyes:
 
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I haven't analyzed the numbers in this online comment yet, cuz I'm too tired.:p Thought I'd post it, too, tho.

ronbull at 9:48 AM PST Friday, August 11, 2006 wrote:
You go Jerry Kumpf CPA

The rent rate went from $3 million to $4 to cover this, what difference does it make if its roled up into the rent. When all is said and done at the end of 30 years the city will have $2.5 billion in extra revenue, (including the $1.2 .0025 tax revenue) and a .5 billion dollar building. MSE will make less than .5 Billion in the 30 years, while at the same time investing $4.5 Billon in entertainment costs to get it. 10% profit isn't exaclty raking it in.
 
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Just Google the San Jose Arena and possessory tax and you'll see that they are paying maybe $500,000 in possessory tax every year. In fact there are a few documents citing the Arena Management (San Jose's JPA) of deducting too much from their yearly fees and paying what amounts to no tax. They seem like they worked that out well and it's years after the fact.
 
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I understand the CPA's explanation of the possessory tax. Its the other comment that was fuzzy to me.

What's bad, is people will read Walters and think he's telling the truth, when, in fact, he doesn't know what the h*ll he's talking about. He got it totally wrong.
 
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What's bad, is people will read Walters and think he's telling the truth, when, in fact, he doesn't know what the h*ll he's talking about. He got it totally wrong.
And what's worse is that, regardless of the FACT that Walters is wrong, damage has been done. While many people will read his column, many less folks will read on line, letters to the editor, or other educational/rebuttal avenues.

Bottom line: The media can be wrong, even consistently wrong, and subsequently be proven wrong, but it still influences folks' way of thinking unless those folks keep up with everything.
 

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And, unfortunately, this is just politics as usual for Dan Walters.

For far too long, IMHO, political columnists have been able to get away with way too many lies, untruths and distortions. Their "opinions" start at the highest level of politics and trickle all the way down to the very lowest.

We cannot possibly change that. All we can do is lend our voice wherever and whenever we can to make sure people have as much valid information as possible.

Campaigns are dirty, nasty, hateful, disgusting things. Both sides of an issue will say or do whatever they possibly can to ensure their side wins. We're stuck with that.

We may not have the circulation or readership the Sacramento Bee has, but we're one place that gives supporters a voice ... and there are other grassroots groups doing the same thing we are.

My gut instinct tells me Dan Walters is not the mover and shaker he might like to think he is. This kind of issue is something people who are passionately for will support, while people like People United, etc. will be just as passionate against.

The people who are really on the fence won't be swayed by Dan Walters to any great extent. They'll be swayed by TV advertising, comments from friends, etc. That's a small consolation but at least it's something.

We aren't ever going to get everyone to see this issue the same way we do. And that's not even a goal.

All we can do is talk and educate and hope those in Sacramento County who do vote have the sense to look at the big picture.