Alright, we got the 8th pick, options...
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Let me expound upon that. Of all the recent rumors to come out, I don't recall them mentioning the Kings throwing in Ben on the deal. Maybe we don't have to include him in order to get something of value back.
Here is the other thing. You don't typically want to trade a big guy for a small guy. If you're going to entice Orlando to give up a big man draft pick, it is usually easier to do if you offer a big man in return. JT & DWill maybe.
Let me expound upon that. Of all the recent rumors to come out, I don't recall them mentioning the Kings throwing in Ben on the deal. Maybe we don't have to include him in order to get something of value back.
Here is the other thing. You don't typically want to trade a big guy for a small guy. If you're going to entice Orlando to give up a big man draft pick, it is usually easier to do if you offer a big man in return. JT & DWill maybe.
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Orlando could still end up with a good player at 8 that they like; Vonleh or Smart and get Ben for their trouble. No risk on Embiid. I like it, but I have a feeling either the 76'ers will draft Embiid or trade the pick to another team that wants him. Not sure how the Kings could entice the Sixers with the 8th and Ben. Kings are pretty tied up without being able to trade a future #1, maybe a blessing in disguise?
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The Cavs, Kings and Celtics are in trade talks involving Rondo to Sacramento an unnamed players to Cleveland & Boston getting the 1st Pick.
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The Cavs, Kings and Celtics are in trade talks involving Rondo to Sacramento an unnamed players to Cleveland & Boston getting the 1st Pick.
I'd consider trading up for Embiid, but I don't think I'd be willing to include McLemore as part of the deal. We have nothing going at SG if McLemore is gone and Embiid probably won't be ready to play until 2015. If drafting Embiid is already a risk, throwing your previous draft pick into the bargain is too much. I'm not seeing a lot of possibilities though for trading up that don't include McLemore. Utah and Orlando both made pretty good offers to Cleveland to pick #1 so it could be Cleveland with the 4th or 5th pick and nobody knows who they actually want. Maybe we can trade expiring contracts (Outlaw and Terry) for Gerald Wallace's contract and move up 2 spots to #6 if Embiid is still there.
Because neither us nor Boston have players that would be worth giving up the 1st pick for. The #8 would pretty much have to be included in the deal.
As for Embiid, yes please. Trade up and do what it takes. I'd love to have Rondo here but if it's a choice between him or the risk on Embiid, I'm going to roll the dice on having the best NBA frontcourt, possibly of all time, for the next ten years.
As for Embiid, yes please. Trade up and do what it takes. I'd love to have Rondo here but if it's a choice between him or the risk on Embiid, I'm going to roll the dice on having the best NBA frontcourt, possibly of all time, for the next ten years.
This is the ultimate in irony for me. I had Rajon Rondo rated very highly in the draft. I watched the draft that year hoping he would fall to us and he did, but we picked Quincy Douby instead. Crushed. Then he went on to have great success in Boston and he's been at the top of my wishlist ever since. Now I'm looking at a deal where we get Rondo for Ben McLemore and #8 and wondering if Rondo alone (with an expiring contract) is better than Elfrid Payton and Ben McLemore combined. I thought Ben was the #3 player in the draft last year after Noel and Oladipo. He played like an inexperienced kid in his rookie season but his jumpshot is still a thing of beauty. With some added confidence I think he'll return to form as a deadeye shooter. I've got Payton ranked #5 after Embiid, Wiggins, Parker, and Exum. I've been watching a lot of tape on him the past couple months and his potential as a defender is really exciting. With Embiid's injury issues, Parker's defensive limitations and the bust potential of Exum and Wiggins, it's not a stretch to say Payton is the one player in the draft who I have no reservations about.
If there's no Payton in the draft this year (as close to a Rondo clone as you're ever likely to find) I'd still be all over it. It just so happens that the one guy I really like in the draft this year looks like Rondo's heir apparent as the best defender in the league at PG. If this deal goes down I'm going to be happy we finally got Rondo but also nervous about where Payton and McLemore's careers might take them and the considerable possibility that Rondo leaves in a year. I'm not upset about the idea but I'm not thrilled either, I'm just conflicted on how to feel.
If there's no Payton in the draft this year (as close to a Rondo clone as you're ever likely to find) I'd still be all over it. It just so happens that the one guy I really like in the draft this year looks like Rondo's heir apparent as the best defender in the league at PG. If this deal goes down I'm going to be happy we finally got Rondo but also nervous about where Payton and McLemore's careers might take them and the considerable possibility that Rondo leaves in a year. I'm not upset about the idea but I'm not thrilled either, I'm just conflicted on how to feel.
This is one of the first years as a Kings fan where I have no idea what the hell is going to happen on draft night. Only thing I'm sure of is that it won't be what I expect. I'd love to trade up for Embiid, or get someone that has been talked about (Rondo, Hordford etc), whilst also possibly nabbing Peyton. Too ambitious, yes, but who the hell knows what's going to go down tomorrow. Going to be very interesting either way. Actually the whole draft will be interesting, no one really knows where anyone will go and I suspect there will be at least one huge shock.
No, we have to make the pick, then trade. Only team we can trade the pick to the day before would be Chicago, by their agreement about our future encumbered pick.
I'm tired of typing that term "future encumbered pick". I think I'd just give them next year's pick no strings attached just to end that interminable nonsense.
I'm tired of typing that term "future encumbered pick". I think I'd just give them next year's pick no strings attached just to end that interminable nonsense.