Trade deadline approaching for Kings

no need for a trade, we just have to wait for the Chinese season to be up and we can fix our guardline:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba...-in-chinese-league-game/ar-AAn6STC?li=BBnbfcL

why? You do know 3 (4 with Boogie) other positions can space the floor? Also Spacing isn't synonymous with only 3pt shooting. Rubio creates space by collapsing the defense and getting other guys better looks.

How much did he sign for this season?

$1,315,448

I don't think very many people are going to invest much in him in a multi year deal. A single year deal perhaps. But I think he's going to be cheap.

Name me one winning team that has a PG that cannot shoot?

Also have you missed our coach saying that he likes Cousins at PF which means that his preference is to play a C with Cousins and there are not many Cs out there that can shoot the 3 so chances are that you will have a big guy next to Cousins who won't be able to shoot (e.g. Kosta or WCS) going forward. In modern game that means that the rest of the spots on the floor should be providing long range shooting and Rubio is not going to be that guy.

There are players out there who can create for others to make them more effective but at the same time have the ability to shoot from the long range. It is the new prototype of a PG in the modenr NBA and that sort of player would certainly be a better fit next to Cousins than Rubio.

He was coming off a season where his stock plummeted. He has certainly rebuilt that reputation and his game in Sacramento. He is overall a better player than Collison and DC will get a deal that will just about double on what he is earning this season. Ty Lawson will get deal at least as similar as DC if not better.

Disagree.

I don't think people are going to invest much into Ty for a multi year deal, don't think they'll see the wager as worth the risk.

Which is why I think you can get him cheap on like a 2 year with him having the option.

There are already regrets on some of those 2016 contracts. And you can only get, what's out there. So for a guy, who was almost out of the league last summer, I don't think, there's a lot. As of right now only 6 teams are guaranteed to operate in cap space mode: Sixers, Nets, Nuggets, Suns, Celtics, Wolves. Of course, there are options and non-guarantees, but quite a few options are for players, who expect increases. Don't see anything above MLE ($8.4m) available, and since MLE must be at least 3years, I expect most of that money being non-guaranteed.

Johnson was fine in Toronto at SF on both ends, especially when he was allowed to make plays: off the ball players, who can't shoot, can only do so much to not hurt their team offensively, especially when they share the floor with Bismack Biyombo. This year results suggest he might finally be able to shoot, which is often the case with ballhandlers, who were bricklayers early in their careers. Plus Kings could use some additional ballhandling. Positional versatility of filling both forward positions is a nice bonus.

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2014/12/3/7325551/James-Johnson-reflects-on-Sacramento
Those weren't even PDA times, so you could suggest, that Vivek was part of the problem. His year was during Vodka brothers.

P.S. Reading commentary on Detroit struggles, it looks like Pistons are really missing Tolliver in the locker room. I'm almost sure, Kings should keep him, now that he looks decent off the bench.

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2. Shortly after the sale to Seattle was announced, James Johnson wore a Sonics hat in the Kings locker room. Kings brass made him remove.

Could we offer Philly Richardson/Ben for Okafor? I wonder what it would take to get Okafor.

If we do that, it would be just another sign, that our guys are just completely clueless.
Okafor is much more of a throwback big than DMC. He has the same weaknesses and not the same talent level.
I assume the "plan" is to draft some guards with what Vivek considers "star potential" and to go from there. A young cheap core with the Warriors blueprint all over it.
We should swap coaches with the Pelicans though.....

At this point we need any talented young player other teams are looking to trade and Okafor has more "star potential" than anyone on the roster currrently I have been complete unimpressed by Buddy from what I have seen and he's already like 23.

I honestly think Papa and Skal have more star potential than Okafor, but that's just a sign of how lowly I think of Okafor.

If you also got Philly to cancel their pick swap as part of the move though, I'd have to think about it.

At this point we need any talented young player other teams are looking to trade and Okafor has more "star potential" than anyone on the roster currrently I have been complete unimpressed by Buddy from what I have seen and he's already like 23.

Philly is going to get our pick this year.......like think about that. This Cousins trade is a nightmare, Kings didn't get anywhere close to a good return and in the offseason we are going to see Philly draft a more talented player then Heid with the Kings pick. You can't make this stuff up.

Really is Okafor that bad? Wow I have watched him a couple times never been that unimpressed but I have not seen much so..

Surely the Kings will try to flip Evans/Gallo/DC/KK into something decent in terms of young talent maybe got after Payne/Justin Anderson/Dekker.....A long shot would be Reggie Jackson or Vucievic/Monroe. OKC needs help still as do the Pistons/Pacers (willing to give up a 1st)/Hornets/Celtics.

If the Bulls/Celtics trade maybe we could get in on a 3 way where Butler goes to Boston and maybe we can offer something there.

I don't agree. At this point we need a vision how we want to move forward as a franchise. What brand of basketball do we want to play. Just stockpiling as much assets as possible will ultimately lead to more dumb, below value trades.
If you move on from Boogie, because you don't believe you can win with a guy, rightfully in the conversation for best big in the league, you don't trade for Okafor.
Not that Okafor is a bad player. His post game is really really good. But that's all he is as a player so far. He is not a good defender, he is not a good rebounder, he is not a good passer, he has very limited awareness when it comes to double teams, his jumpshot is questionable so far, he is not a rim protector. It just doesn't make sense.
If you want to play a certain way, at least finally do it the right way and go all in on it. But that's said - with the level of stupidity of our FO and so called GM a Okafor trade is more than possible. Heck if possible Vlade would give Philly even more draft picks, just to prove a point.

I think the Kings Team Vision going forward should be that of a tough, gritty, Defense First Team with at least 3 players who handle the ball well and can break down a defense. Guys who can get their own shot are now critical because unless a shooter gets hot I don't see anyone on the Kings roster who deserves a double team.

As far as the Boogie trade I don't like it. But what I am reading is that Vivek was the one who was standing in the way of trading Boogie. Now the truth will come out in time but I suspect all those other owners did not want to pay the Mega Deal to the Kings All Star. The silver lining for DeMarcus is he escapes to play with AD and Jrue and he is near where he grew up.

As an aside I was a W's Fan way back in the day who shunned the NBA after CWebb was traded away for Tom Gugliotta and a handful of magic beans. I started paying attention to the Kings when Petrie was hired. Now I see history repeat itself. One look at my avatar should tell you I am not happy

If the Kings have decided to sink the boat, I'd rather they flip the guys for picks and the like. If you're going to jump off the cliff, do it while setting yourself on fire and drinking Clorox

I honestly think Papa and Skal have more star potential than Okafor, but that's just a sign of how lowly I think of Okafor.

If you also got Philly to cancel their pick swap as part of the move though, I'd have to think about it.

Can someone please explain how waiving a player with a PO for the next season affects the salary cap?

It's a bit complicated. Basically, the player option gets picked up automatically. That means that it also gets stretched, so the payments on that salary will be made over the next three years, instead of just next year. THEN, the team has the option to stretch the salary cap implications, or to not stretch the salary cap obligations. I think at this point it would make most sense for us to NOT stretch the salary cap obligations. It's not like we're going to be spending up to the salary cap next year.

Can someone please explain how waiving a player with a PO for the next season affects the salary cap?

His salary counts as part of the cap so we are on the hook for Barnes' salary for next season. Mastermind move that one!

We are gonna have like ten guys on rookie contracts, probably one of the lowest payrolls in the league next year. Heres what our roster potentially looks like next year:

1. WCS (rookie contract)
2. Buddy Hield (rookie contract)
3. Malachi Richardson(rookie contract)
4. Skal( rookie contract)
5. Papa( rookie contract)
6. Kings 2017 1st round pick (rookie contract)
7. Pelicans 2017 first round pick(rookie contract)
8. Sixers 2017 second round pick(rookie contract)
9. Bogdan Bogdanovic(5-8 million per. I would guess)
10. Temple(8 million)
11. Koufos(8 million)
12. Tolliver? (8 million) good vet mentor

Spots 12-15 would be to retain or sign a few solid vets:
Mclemore(If we are going young, why give up on him?)
Lawson
Collison