[Game] Kings v. Nuggets - 2/23/17 - 7:30PT/10:30ET
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I don't think that quite qualifies for the No True Scotsman fallacy. If the original poster had insisted they remained a Kings fan despite the trade, and the respondent had said that they could not be a true Kings fan if they didn't agree with the trade, that would fit. What we've got here is something more like the original poster proclaiming that they are no longer a Scotsman but instead a Dane and the respondent asking if that's true why they're still hanging out at the pub.
Look, he could have said any other team but the Lakers. I thought beyond anything else, a Sacramento Kings fan hates the Lakers. Once you cross that line in my eyes you have to turn in your fan card. Go ahead root for Boogie on the Pels, that's every fans' right to boycott for now and support your favorite player. I understand that I just don't understand the levels some are taking this to, is all.
Is it really THAT important? The implication I'm getting here is that it would be great if the Nuggets made the 8th seed meaning the Pelicans pick fell in lottery to which it would give us a couple more percentage points to actually "win" the lottery. But considering it's top 3 protected, it doesn't really matter.
Granted the lower they finish, the better for us, so perhaps that's what you were insinuating to begin with.
Granted the lower they finish, the better for us, so perhaps that's what you were insinuating to begin with.
Do you know what the word tempted means?
At least the Lakers have decent leadership in Jeannie Buss. The Kings are an absolute trash organization. I am finished making excuses and defending them.
Yeah I'm probably still invested. But I want to see the organization fail over and over now, until Vivek is gone.
I love my city. I love the people who work for the Kings I cherish my memories. But I have realized through this that the memories are about the people you share them with, not allegiance to a brand. I am a fan of people and a city more than the word "Kings". And, in my thinking, because I have self respect, I will no longer spend money or root for a brand run by this leadership to do well.
If anything I'm probably a Pelicans fan now.
I'll wait for the MLS to come to Sac. Until then, there's baseball.
This trade, along with the Malone firing, is not incompetence, in my view. It is a deep betrayal of the trust the fans place in the organization. I no longer think the governing forces of the Kings are acting in good faith. Most people, if they saw things things that way, would react how I'm reacting.
You are free to be a fan or not be a fan however you want. But spare me the lecture.
In any case, maybe I will root for the Lakers. But only when they play the Kings. I'm not claiming the moral high ground here. I will be honest and say I would delight in seeing this organization embarrassed. I will root for Boogie everytime he plays the Kings too. I hope that makes you mad. And if it does, I'd root right in your face.
At least the Lakers have decent leadership in Jeannie Buss. The Kings are an absolute trash organization. I am finished making excuses and defending them.
Yeah I'm probably still invested. But I want to see the organization fail over and over now, until Vivek is gone.
I love my city. I love the people who work for the Kings I cherish my memories. But I have realized through this that the memories are about the people you share them with, not allegiance to a brand. I am a fan of people and a city more than the word "Kings". And, in my thinking, because I have self respect, I will no longer spend money or root for a brand run by this leadership to do well.
If anything I'm probably a Pelicans fan now.
I'll wait for the MLS to come to Sac. Until then, there's baseball.
This trade, along with the Malone firing, is not incompetence, in my view. It is a deep betrayal of the trust the fans place in the organization. I no longer think the governing forces of the Kings are acting in good faith. Most people, if they saw things things that way, would react how I'm reacting.
You are free to be a fan or not be a fan however you want. But spare me the lecture.
In any case, maybe I will root for the Lakers. But only when they play the Kings. I'm not claiming the moral high ground here. I will be honest and say I would delight in seeing this organization embarrassed. I will root for Boogie everytime he plays the Kings too. I hope that makes you mad. And if it does, I'd root right in your face.
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When I forget about the terrible decisions made by the Kings FO recently I look at the team as a large developmental project full of young potential. With all the rooks and other young-uns I have hope that a couple of them will develop into above average NBA players and provide us with something positive. Then of course I remember that what they develop into may not matter since this organization is not capable of keeping talent when it's here or at least getting value for talent when you don't like the personality attached to it. I may just watch because I hate myself enough to hope that there is some remote possibility that something good happens in Kingsland.
So cute! They're getting snipey!!
Nothing more than internalized frustration because people keep giving their loyalty to an organization that craps on its fans over and over and over and over.
I was very public that I was giving them one final chance based on Vlade's integrity at minimum, and what I perceived to be competence. I would have settled for mere integrity.
The only way I come back is if Vivek goes. Until then I'll probably just crappost around here and give you occasional Pelican updates from potentially greatest front court in the history of the Universe.
My unsolicited advice to remaining Kingsfans: lower your expectations dramatically. Develop a sense of black humor. These will be your survival skills.
Nothing more than internalized frustration because people keep giving their loyalty to an organization that craps on its fans over and over and over and over.
I was very public that I was giving them one final chance based on Vlade's integrity at minimum, and what I perceived to be competence. I would have settled for mere integrity.
The only way I come back is if Vivek goes. Until then I'll probably just crappost around here and give you occasional Pelican updates from potentially greatest front court in the history of the Universe.
My unsolicited advice to remaining Kingsfans: lower your expectations dramatically. Develop a sense of black humor. These will be your survival skills.
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Haha kingsfans.com, where being a kings fan means putting up with people bashing the Kings and saying they want to support other teams.
Hey mods, rmb how you used to treat Jimmer fans, fans of other teams (Utah, Boston, Phx most recently) when they came on here just to talk bad about the Kings? Why should these "fans" who clearly aren't even Kings fans anymore be treated any different?
Hey mods, rmb how you used to treat Jimmer fans, fans of other teams (Utah, Boston, Phx most recently) when they came on here just to talk bad about the Kings? Why should these "fans" who clearly aren't even Kings fans anymore be treated any different?
Worked ok on TEAM USA.
I think you are going to see Boogie morph yet again for the sake of winning.
He's a different player wherever he goes, based on what is needed. Kentucky, USA, Kings...
He's not a type of player the league has seen before. They will figure it out. Boogie is going to become one of the best passing big men in history. He'll creep up toward 40% on threes. Defensively, it's off the charts. Both players are mature now. Rmember: both came from coach Calipari.
I think you are going to see Boogie morph yet again for the sake of winning.
He's a different player wherever he goes, based on what is needed. Kentucky, USA, Kings...
He's not a type of player the league has seen before. They will figure it out. Boogie is going to become one of the best passing big men in history. He'll creep up toward 40% on threes. Defensively, it's off the charts. Both players are mature now. Rmember: both came from coach Calipari.
That will depend entirely on the coach. I am not convinced that Gentry is the right coach for that team. That team should be playing half court offense concentrating on pounding the ball down low with Boogie and AD. Go to your strengths. If they continue to run and gun, I suspect the push for play offs will fall short. If they make the right moves in the off-season then things could be really interesting next season and the new trend might just be to have dominant twin towers.
I never asked for or required loyalty from ownership. I chose to be a fan of the team. Fell in love with basketball as a kid because of early 2000s Kings. Memories of playoff games in an insane Arco arena and countless battles with the Mavs and Nick Van Exel. Crying tears when we lost to the Lakers in 2002. Ownership change, coaching change, roster changes...the team is still in Sacramento and they're what I have.
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