[Pre-season] Kings v. Trailblazers - Monday, Oct. 9 - 7PM PT

Discussion in 'Kings Rap' started by VF21, Oct 9, 2017.

  1. NewArena

    NewArena Well-Known Member

    something about Justin jackson reminds me of Kevin Martin. would be nice if he becomes someone that can consistently get to the foul line for us
    because that's an area where Cousins is most definitely missed
  2. Kingsroots

    Kingsroots Active Member

    Yeah WCS is booboo right now. Just seems lazy and uninterested. Not a good sign of things to come this season.
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  3. New Era

    New Era Well-Known Member

    He's more interested in his hairdo than playing basketball
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  4. SacTownKid

    SacTownKid Well-Known Member

    They finally got some decent spacing on that back screen to Jackson. I'll never understand putting two bigs in the post and then trying to run guards through the middle of them. If you have a big in the post, get them the ball. If they can't get it they need to swing back out and open the lane up.
  5. Kings Faithful

    Kings Faithful Well-Known Member

    I liked Malachi last year because he seemed fearless. This year he is anything but... Looks so reserved out there. Just passed up a completely open 3 in rhythm.
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  6. NewArena

    NewArena Well-Known Member

    wow. i think im done questioning this new front office and their ability to draft, I'll say that. tons of bright spots out there
  7. SLAB

    SLAB Well-Known Member

    Nurcic is annoying AF.
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  8. HndsmCelt

    HndsmCelt Well-Known Member

    Well Nuric rapidly becoming a team and fan favorite... might be time to let Cooley pay a few more min.
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  9. dude12

    dude12 Well-Known Member

    I'd like to see Papa get time instead of being sent to Reno. I like how he takes up space. Has grown leaps and bounds. Can't quite say the same about WCS.
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  10. jcwkings

    jcwkings Well-Known Member

    One issue I see that potentially needs to be addressed is that our personnel seems much better suited to run a predominant pick and roll offense than the high post one we are seeing.
  11. SLAB

    SLAB Well-Known Member

    This went south fast. This 4th quarter preseason lineup is awful, and it doesn't help the only guy I trust to score isn't even touching the ball.
  12. SacTownKid

    SacTownKid Well-Known Member

    I'm going to guess that Joerger is really putting a lot of system stuff on these guys because you can see the hesitation. It's amazing how much just a half second of hesitation can allow a defense to take you out on the offensive end.
  13. HndsmCelt

    HndsmCelt Well-Known Member

    Boys against men unfortunately. Williams and Mason running point has actually been less of a disaster than I had expected.
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  14. SacTownKid

    SacTownKid Well-Known Member

    I highly doubt they are running everything right. I think they need to find a better balance between the various systems however. The Grizzlies style double post option O has to go though.
  15. Kingsroots

    Kingsroots Active Member

    This game is incredibly hard to watch now. These boneheaded plays we're making is cring worthy. Our guys are making Pat Connaughton and Jake Leyman look like actual pros.
  16. gunks

    gunks Well-Known Member

    WCS playing uninterested?! That's weird.


    Snarkiness aside, maybe he'll try in the regular season.... But it's annoying that his "fire" constantly needs kindling.
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  17. Kings Faithful

    Kings Faithful Well-Known Member

    Frank Mason is a better rebounder than any of our bigs outside of Cooley.
  18. Kingsfan23

    Kingsfan23 Well-Known Member

    It's lack of motor, and innate

    Can't really blame him personally, as I'm sure he wants it, but it's not something he can control. Just innate
  19. HndsmCelt

    HndsmCelt Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately it looks like the Kings will need to have adult supervision on the court almost all of the time this season. We have some very tallented kids but the only tow I see that look NBA ready are Fox and Bogs.
  20. Kings Faithful

    Kings Faithful Well-Known Member

    Coach must have given Willy the ok to work on those jumpers in pre-season. If not, i would bench a player taking those kinds of shots.
  21. Kingsroots

    Kingsroots Active Member

    I'm trying not to overreact to preseason. Hopefully he'll play harder once it counts. That being said, he's not good enough to float and just go through the motions. He should be hustling non stop.
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  22. ESP47

    ESP47 Well-Known Member

    I just don't think he can even in the slightest. His lateral quickness is extremely slow. Putting him at the 3 would mean other 3's would go right around him while he wouldn't be able to go around them. Him and Durant have similar bodies but Durant's athleticism is extremely fluid whereas Skal's is not fluid at all. He just looks fluid when he's using his post up moves but his actual movement on the court isn't very fluid. He plays like a natural pure bred 4 but he has strength, rebounding and fouling issues to work out. He doesn't have a ton of trouble scoring over other 4's so if you put him at the 3, he will have a slightly better time scoring in the post on 3's but his already very apparent weaknesses will be exacerbated ten fold in every other situation at the 3.
  23. Hoovtrain

    Hoovtrain Well-Known Member

    And neither apparently know how to box out
  24. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    I didn't get to watch the entire game but what I did see has me totally flummoxed. I'll start off by saying I like WCS, I wanted us to draft WCS and I've had a lot of hope for him. Having got that on the record, I am not sure who I saw out there tonight but it wasn't the WCS I envisioned as being part of the Kings. His attitude reminds me of Gerald Wallace - he just doesn't seem to be taking things seriously. I hope I'm wrong. I realky want to be wrong. Can someone convince me I just didn't see the whole picture tonight?
  25. lawlman91

    lawlman91 Well-Known Member

    I do not think that that is the difference. We get the same benefits as a pick and roll when we do the dribble hand-off. One advantage of a high post offense is that the defense turns their heads just a wee bit more. However, you can argue that the angle of the dribble hand-off is different from the angle of your typical pick and roll, and that that difference is what makes or breaks the effectiveness of our players.
  26. Kingsroots

    Kingsroots Active Member

    I can't argue with that at all. I REALLY want to like WCS but he does stuff that's forehead slapping dumb sometimes and plays nonchalant. It's too bad because he has every bit of physical tools you could ask for.
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  27. John Galt

    John Galt Well-Known Member

    Just got home. I actually thought Papa was less horrible than usual tonight - looked to me like he impacted many shots, and he can shoot. Frank Mason... he can ball - we got a keeper there! Jackson showed flashes. Guess I'll go check out the grades now but yeah - I think Paps was better tonight than usual.
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  28. SacTownKid

    SacTownKid Well-Known Member


    Flummoxed is a good word, because I'd bet that's how the players feel as well. I think part of what's wrong with him, and some of the others has to do with indecision. They players have almost no rhythm with one another and as individuals they appear confused on both ends most of the time. Their reaction time is a half tick slow and as a result they are all, I think Willie included, playing a tad bit behind the action. Hopefully when they start getting dialed into where they are supposed to be and with what they are supposed to be doing the confidence level grows and the intensity picks up. I don't think we can judge Willie or anyone until everyone knows exactly what they are attempting to accomplish because right now that picture appears to be awfully blurry for every player on the squad.
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  29. kingsboi

    kingsboi Well-Known Member

    how about the fresh pair of grills he's rockin' too? o_Oo_Oo_O
  30. kingsboi

    kingsboi Well-Known Member

    you would figure Z-Bo could teach them about a proper box out

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