Pick situation (split)

Discussion in 'Kings Rap' started by Kingsfan23, Feb 26, 2017.

  1. M_Barragan

    M_Barragan Active Member


    The sixers are not going to catch Minny or Charlotte so they will be at pick 7 (maybe 6 depending on NY) and we will swap with them. (In range for either Fox/Frank/Dennis/Monk)

    Looking at strength of Schedule the Pelicans have the toughest schedule of Charlotte and Dallas. At worst the pick should be 11 but I think one of those teams ends the season with a better record and the pick lands at 10 in range of of either Bridges or Isaac.
  2. Capt. Factorial

    Capt. Factorial Cantry Member Staff Member Contributor

    Pick situation update with lottery outcomes, 3/20

    If the season ended as of the games on 3/20, the Sixers would be in the 5th slot, the Kings would be in the 6th slot, and the Pelicans would be in the 9th slot, pre-lottery.

    The Kings would not be in danger of losing their pick to Chicago. The Pelicans would have a 6.1% chance of winning one of three lotto spots, thus the Kings would have a 93.9% chance of having two first-round picks. The Kings chance of getting a top-3 pick (either 2 or 3) is 4%.

    There would be 18 possible outcomes for the Kings (though 10 of these are extremely unlikely). In order of probability, rounded, and grouped:

    Probable:
    Picks 6 and 9: 56%
    Picks 7 and 9: 20%
    Picks 7 and 10: 10%

    Might Happen:
    Pick 7 only: 5%
    Picks 3 and 9: 3%
    Picks 8 and 10: 2%
    Pick 8 only: 1%
    Picks 2 and 9: 1%

    Not Gonna Happen (less than 1%):
    Picks 8 and 9
    Picks 8 and 11

    Really Not Gonna Happen (less than 0.1%):
    Picks 3 and 10
    Picks 2 and 10
    Pick 9 only
    Pick 3 only
    Picks 9 and 10
    Picks 9 and 11
    Pick 2 only
    Picks 9 and 12
  3. kingdivac

    kingdivac Active Member

    I like Fox - like getting a Mike Conley type player....his quickness is too intriguing to pass up - and essential for staying in front of guards on defense too. I'd guess he's at least as quick as Collison, and probably a better defender already. Fox and Bridges would be a good haul. Bridges reminds me of a lefty Paul Pierce - may not as good shooter, but as explosive.
  4. macadocious

    macadocious Well-Known Member

    Here is how I see the final team rankings playing out. Back with our Lucky #7 that we seem to have pretty much every single year. At least we have pretty good drafting history at the 7 spot.

    Final Record
    14 Detroit Pistons 41 41
    13 Chicago Bulls 39 43
    12 Portland Trail Blazers 38 44
    11 Dallas Mavericks 34 48
    10 Charlotte Hornets 34 48
    9 Minnesota Timberwolves 34 47
    8 New Orleans Pelicans 33 49
    7 Sacramento Kings 31 51
    6 New York Knicks 30 52
    5 Philadelphia 76ers 30 52
    4 Orlando Magic 28 54
    3 Phoenix Suns 24 58
    2 Los Angeles Lakers 23 59
    1 Brooklyn Nets 16 65
  5. kingdivac

    kingdivac Active Member

    I dont think the Kings make 31 wins. I think the Pelicans might be around 10 vice 8....many teams will have identical records like you show though I agree. Agreeing Kings will be 7 and get projecting Pelicans 10....if lucky 5-6 and 8. If unlucky, the Pelicans hit #3, and Kings get 8-10, with only one pick. Its actually better to have Pelicans win more and have a more assured pick at lower rank rather than them tanking and getting 3+ with nothing for the Kings.
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  6. macadocious

    macadocious Well-Known Member

    You think the Pelicans will go 6-6 in their last 12 games? That gets them to the 10 hole.
  7. M_Barragan

    M_Barragan Active Member

    It's possible but they have a tough schedule. The next week should show us where they end up. I think the Sixers end up with a better record then us but they are too far back from everyone else in front of them to catch so we should only slide 1 slot with their pick swap. New York is hot garbage so they should replace the Sixers in the standings. With that said I have our pick at 7 (6th if the Knicks win some games) after the swap and the Pelicans tied with Dallas and Charlotte for Pick 9 through 11. If we get lucky with the tie breakers we can land pick 9 from the pelicans.
  8. Suicide King

    Suicide King Well-Known Member

    My bones tell me the 76ers will get top 3. As for the rest, if we get 3 good to great prospects I will be happy.Preferably a pg and sf.
  9. kingdivac

    kingdivac Active Member

    I have a bad feeling the draft balls are kind this year to the Kings which means the Sixers say thank you very much to the Kings. The Sixer now have the "luxury" to win knowing the Kings will back them up.
    Yes PG and SF.....trying to figure which position is of more need, and I think that's SF should be first followed by PG 2nd although if Fox is there, get him first I think. I wouldn't be completely upset with a PF either. Resign Lawson at value should be a goal also, and pay him decently as he's earned it.
  10. Suicide King

    Suicide King Well-Known Member

    Between the two, I prefer we go for an above average floor general first over the sf. Been too long since we have had our guards not be weak links. We need someone to grow executing Joergers playbook.

    I always feel we will get screwed in any situation where it is remotely possible, so the ping pong balls hold no power over my optomism. It will play out and we will be able to really start targetting players knowing where we pick.
  11. Jimbob

    Jimbob Well-Known Member

    Sixers smashing the Magic today even without Okafor. At least they did not put this effort together earlier in the year or we might be looking at a pick in the teens.
  12. Kingsfan23

    Kingsfan23 Well-Known Member

    That Sixers pick might be 10-11. It might hurt for us to end up with the 5th worst record. That swap will happen

    They are balling
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  13. upinsmoke

    upinsmoke Well-Known Member

    They did this earlier on in the season to then they came back to Earth. I haven't watched them I know they beat an IT less Celtics team but how are they piling up these wins right now?
  14. Kingsfan23

    Kingsfan23 Well-Known Member

    They have some good players - Saric/Covington/Holmes. McConnell is underrated (plays with heart). Rodriguez has been fine off the bench. But, I would say Brown has them playing well. Good, tough noses coach

    But, looks like they will lose tonight, and my original post may be an overreaction
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  15. Suicide King

    Suicide King Well-Known Member

    If the 6ers jump into top 3 then us being 5th or whatever wont matter. I know its unlikely but no use stressing about it yet.

    I think Chicago finished 9th when they drafted Rose with the first pick. Stranger things..
  16. gunks

    gunks Well-Known Member

    Clutch jinx!

    And pffft.... even WE beat The Magic.
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  17. est.1999

    est.1999 Well-Known Member

    Can't wait for the lottery to end so we can stop stressing over this bs!
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  18. Jimbob

    Jimbob Well-Known Member

    I've been a Kings fan for too long, 85 in fact. so the lottery means everything to me. But your right I cant wait tell the seasons over and the ping pong hopper has done its damage.
  19. The_Jamal

    The_Jamal Well-Known Member

    Really big win for the magic for us there. Helps a lot
  20. Mass

    Mass Well-Known Member Contributor

    I'm so sure this is the year we "finally" get lucky at the lottery and land a top 3 pick. It's so Kangz that I really have no doubt about it.
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  21. King Baller

    King Baller Well-Known Member

    It would be interesting to compare the schedules of the Sixers to the Kings for the rest of the season. I know the Kings are in a rough stretch.
  22. Mass

    Mass Well-Known Member Contributor

    Sixers

    @ Thunder
    @ Bulls
    @ Pacers
    @ Nets
    vs Hawks
    @ Cavs
    @ Raptors
    vs Nets
    vs Bulls
    vs Bucks
    vs Pacers
    @ Knicks

    Kings

    vs Bucks
    @ Warriors
    @ Clippers
    vs Grizzlies
    vs Jazz
    @ Pelicans
    @ Wolves
    vs Mavs
    @ Lakers
    vs Rockets
    vs Suns
    @ Clippers

    I see us winning 2 or 3 games. Hopefully we win just the one against the Lakers. But we can beat Mavs and Suns. It's crucial for us to lose vs Pelicans and Wolves.
    The Sixers can win 4 or 5 games. 5 more probably. They will finish at 31-51, we will be around 29/30.
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  23. ESP47

    ESP47 Well-Known Member

    I think the Sixers and Pelicans schedules are more important than ours. The Pelicans have 7 games against playoff teams, 3 against teams vying for the playoffs and then two gimmies against us and the Lakers.

    We should all be rooting hard for the Sixers and Pels to lose, while rooting for the TWolves, Knicks and Magic to win. That Magic's overtime win vs the Sixers last night was really good for us. The Sixers are turning it up lately with Covington, Holmes, Okafor and Saric all playing well. They don't need to tank because they know they can just rely on our pick.
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  24. roasthawg

    roasthawg Well-Known Member

    I think I'd try to trade up to #4 and take Fox if that's how it p
    They get our balls and their own... Still plenty of incentive to lose.
  25. kingdivac

    kingdivac Active Member

    As much as I like Fox, I'm not sure he's worth 2 first round picks to move up. There are quite a few good PGs in the top 12. After watching highlights of Dennis Smith, he looks like a very good player and under control. He's not as quick as Fox, but he's a better passer. Either way Smith or Fox, its a win. Mockdraft has Kings picking Smith and Isaac. Really unless the Pelicans magically get 2nd or 3rd pick, the Kings are in good shape. Looking forward to this draft. Kings could have a boatload of young talent. PG and SF. Resign Ty Lawson. Next year the Kings will have a 10-man rotation likely.
  26. roasthawg

    roasthawg Well-Known Member

    Of the four 27 win teams I think Philly ends up with the most wins based on their schedule. The swap will probably happen so I think our highest pick will end up being #7.

    The Pelicans are for sure gonna pass the Mavericks. That'll put them at #10. So I'm calling it #7 and #10.

    I think we'll end up choosing between Markkanen, Issac, Ntalinka, and Bridges. If we trade my guess is it's up for a PG.
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2017
  27. kingdivac

    kingdivac Active Member

    The Pelican outbome tonight was a wash - a win or loss did not matter much. Losses to Wolves and Mavs are tres importantante, contributing to draft percentages. Luckily the Mavs/Wolves are not eliminated yet, so theoretically have more incentive to win. Goldilocks would be the 6ers losing as many possible, the Kings losing as many as possible, the Knicks/Mavs/Twolves/Magic winning as many as possible, and the Pelicans losing most of their games .....a pick of 5 of their own and 7 from the Pelicans would be righteous.
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