Papa G in action overseas

Discussion in 'Kings Rap' started by Nightfall, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. Nightfall

    Nightfall Active Member

    First Greek NT friendly preparation game against Romania. The difference between the two NT is huge so we won 106 - 48. Every player played around 10-20 minutes.

    PapaG was possitive : 16' : 8 PTS (4/6 FG) , 4 RBS (2 OR - 2 DR), 1 PF, 1 AST , 1 STL , 3 BLKS , 1 TO , he setup nice screens and scored mostly with his hook shot.

    But as I said the difference between the 2 teams is huge.Summer League games are tougher than playing against Romania.
    Today we play against England (a bit tougher but we should easily win). The second set of friendly games against Serbia and Montenegro in a few days should be more interesting.
  2. Tetsujin

    Tetsujin The Game Thread Dude

    That Serbia match should be of major interest to Kings fans for obvious reasons
  3. Nightfall

    Nightfall Active Member

    Second game for the Greek NT (again without Giannis Antetokoumpo, who was off for 5 days due to a discomfort on the knee (MRI was clean).

    Greece - UK (who are coached by Joe Prunty btw) : 92-64
    Again it was a chance for everybody to play about 10-20 min in avg.

    Full game here (game was web broadcasted free worldwide, so I hope posting a link is not an issue) :


    PapaG was mostly positive. You can see that losing weight has helped , he is more agile (better than his SL appearances). He did some mistakes especially when he entered the game, but he gained slowly and was much better during the last Q.

    I liked the fact that, on occasions he ended up guarding smaller opponents, he managed to position well and not allow them through, on the other hand, there are cases that he forgets he is the bigger man in 99.9% of the games he will play, and some strong opponents outplayed him. I hope he improves there.

    Stats:
    In 16 minutes : 9PTS , 4/8 FG, 1/1 FT, 7RBS (3 OFF), 1 BLK, 0 PF, 0 TO , +15 (in +-)
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2017
  4. "The Serbian Sniper"

    "The Serbian Sniper" Well-Known Member

    I just watched his game against Montenegro and matchup Papa vs Vucevic. Greece won in dramatic finish, Papa played about 15-20 minutes, and had bad game (i guess Nightfall has full stats). He started the game, and had one airball from midrange, one turnover while trying to post up and had some problems while defending Vucevic. Vucevic scored 6 fast points against him, so PapaG came out after only 3 minutes. He returned later, but did nothing on the court. Vucevic seemed too fast for him. I guess summer isn't the best time of the year for him.

    Tomorrow night, Bogdan vs Papa. It will be interesting matchup, Marjanovic vs PapaG :D
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  5. Suicide King

    Suicide King Well-Known Member

    Papa might need more time in the slow cooker before he is done. :D
  6. Nightfall

    Nightfall Active Member

    Missed the game, but I heard he had a bad game.
  7. gunks

    gunks Well-Known Member

    I feel bad that I already want to give up on the kid.

    He's super young but soooooooooooo slow. Seems like his best case is spot minutes role player.

    But you can't teach huge, and I've been wrong before.
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  8. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    I trust that Vlade sees something in him that we just haven't seen yet. :)
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  9. Nightfall

    Nightfall Active Member

    Missed the game vs Serbia as well (my mother was visiting us in Germany from Greece, the kids were happy and as expected overexcited, so my role was reduced to driving and explaining things at sightseeing :D ).
    But I am glad I missed it. Worst defeat in more than 20 years even for a friendly game is too much...

    Giannis didn't play because of knee pain, but still....I heard that PapaG had big troubles with their PnR. I haven't seen a box score either.

    Good thing for Kings is that Bogdan rocked it on both games against Greece and Montenegro !
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  10. "The Serbian Sniper"

    "The Serbian Sniper" Well-Known Member

    Serbia made 10 of 13 3pt attempts. And half of them were at the end of the possesion or quarter. I don't think we can repeat that again, but we did play excellent defense and Greece had troubles in offense. It's not the same without Giannis, who knows in what direction would game went if he played. As far as i remember Papa's stats, he played 9 minutes and scored 2 points (fadeaway from midrange over Marjanovic). When ball circles around, Papa doesn't a have chance to touch it; they are not using him at all. And yea, he had some troubles with pick and roll.
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  11. Nightfall

    Nightfall Active Member

    Hvala ti. I think it is your chance this time, especially after Llul's injury.
    We still have many issues. Shooting from outside (especially against a good defense like Serbia), our guards don't use our Centers well. Our centers....PapaG is young, Bourousis too old and slow, Bogris would rather milf-hunt on the beach and all 3 have issues against PnR like Serbia's... PF depends on how well Printezis will hold
    Even with Giannis, I predict him being double, triple teammed like against Montenegro, but when he passes for outside scoring our option are weak. Still most teams have issues and we should go further if the knockout draw is good.
    It would be nice to meet Serbia in the final though.
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  12. "The Serbian Sniper"

    "The Serbian Sniper" Well-Known Member

    It is our chance, but we always make better results as "underdogs". This is maybe the first time in last 10 years that we are one of the two or three favourites, along Spain and France. Greece, Croatia and Lithuania are strong medal contenders too.

    If we talk about Greece, one big, successful generation needs to be replaced. Diamantidis, Spanoulis and Fotsis are gone, Printezis and Bourousis don't play with passion like before (hope i will be wrong this time), so you definitely need a few younger guys to step up at the national team stage. This is the first bigger opportunity for Giannis to be dominant for NT, and he will need a help from youngs: Agravanis, PapaG, Papapetrou, or someone like them, to step up at this championship. I am not sure if PapaG is ready to take that kind of role, but he will have his chance (i hope so), because as far as i know, he will split minutes at Center position only with Bourousis?

    I always admired Greece style of play and i find it similar to Serbian (toughness and defense mixed with high IQ and talent) and i really hope that you will find new leaders for the team and new successful generation.
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  13. notoriousBEN3

    notoriousBEN3 Active Member

    I recall people saying the same thing about Yao Ming. You never know!
  14. kingsfan1984

    kingsfan1984 Active Member

    When he knows what he wants to do and reacts he seems to have good speed and quickness for a man his size. He just needs time and experience so he knows when to be aggressive and how to anticipate ahead of time.
  15. gunks

    gunks Well-Known Member

    Hopefully that's the case. I'd love to eat crow on this one!
  16. Shamrock

    Shamrock Member

    He has 0 bball iq
  17. King Baller

    King Baller Well-Known Member

    I don't know about that. He sets a nice pick, takes up space in the paint and rebounds. Once he stops putting it on the floor when it is not required his turnovers should go down. He does need to learn to defend the other big centers in the NBA.

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