Otto Porter Max contract offer now moot

Discussion in 'Personnel moves' started by Section 101, Jul 2, 2017.

  1. Section 101

    Section 101 Well-Known Member

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  2. Merdiesel

    Merdiesel Well-Known Member

    I have a good feeling about this one. I think the Wizards were bluffing.
  3. lwc

    lwc Well-Known Member

    I love the idea that we can get a young talented player locked up for four years. 25 million is high but it's not completely unreasonable. Otto Porter has proven that he can play in the NBA. He was a third best player on a team that was good enough to go to the Eastern Conference Finals and missed it by just a few points.

    If Harry Giles, Skal Labissiere, De'Aaron Fox, or any combination of two players currently on the team turn into Superstars or even borderline All-Stars, then he can grow with that team to make them into a real contender.

    The third piece is sometimes the hardest to find because they have to be borderline All-Star talent but still willing to take a backseat to the superstars of the team. I thought Rudy could have been that for Sacramento but he didn't fit in a team oriented game which is a reason why IT, Cousins, Gay did not work. Porter seems to fit that third wheel perfectly
  4. pdxKingsFan

    pdxKingsFan Well-Known Member

    If they weren't and they match they're in luxury tax category and they still have to sign players plus were hoping to be a free agent player next year. I absolutely love it either way.

    If they match we could probably pick up Bojan on a one year with team option deal for two as well.
  5. lwc

    lwc Well-Known Member

    Is it possible for the Wizards to sign Porter for the max deal plus sign Bogdanovic to a good enough deal to make him stay?
  6. pdxKingsFan

    pdxKingsFan Well-Known Member

    Yes, but Porter will put them over the luxury tax so basically whatever they sign Bojan for is going to keep them over for a long time to come and cost them double and even more when they become repeat offenders.
  7. ninjabiscuit

    ninjabiscuit Well-Known Member

    There is very bad language being used in the Wizards front office right now.
  8. ovrush

    ovrush Active Member

    lets see if he signs the offer before we even start hoping about Washington having to match. If we're going to spend in free agency though, this is the type of player to spend on.
  9. ockingsfan

    ockingsfan Well-Known Member

    There may also be hurt feelings from Porter's camp, since the wizards low balled him.

    This could be a situation where the player asks the other team not to match or work out a sign and trade.
  10. King Baller

    King Baller Well-Known Member

    Porter will sign the offer sheet.
  11. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

    Wiz will match and won't even blink. They've been preparing for this, see the Andrew Nicholson trade...

    Also it's feasible that matching this contract could actually benefit the Wiz if they prefer to sign him for 4 years instead of 5..
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  12. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

    The wiz are at 91M right now. 26M per for Porter = 117 (121M w/tax). Luxury tax starts at 113 so anything over that is taxed at 100%. So porter already costs them 30M per, next year at least.

    Then to sign anyone else you're in Luxury tax mode and you can only sign your own players. So, sign Bojan at 8M, costs you 16. Now up to 137M of payroll expenses! That is severely eating into owner profits at that point, and I can imaging some minority owners not being very happy with that one bit.

    It's a very restrictive place to be and you only want to be there if you are really pushing for a win now mode and you're sure the players you have can get you there. That is far from where the Wizards are. They are in a tough spot.

    If there are errors in my stats/rules please correct.
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  13. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

    Fine. Then we sign Bojan.
  14. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

  15. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    I'm with you. I have a good feeling. :)
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  16. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

    If the price is right I'm all for it. They'll need to bring in a SF who's big enough and fleet of foot enough to guard the West's top SF's though. A trial by fire of Justin Jackson and Bojan will go poorly, this is probably why they offered so much to Iguodala.
  17. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

    Me too.
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  18. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    Did you forget who you're talking to? :p
  19. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

    Criticize how some of the players worked out, but let's not forget that Vlade seems to have a way of wooing FAs. Caron Butler, Marco, KK, etc.... those were all unexpectedly good signings for the Kings, especially for our scenario then. Our scenario is MUCH better now.
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  20. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

    Guys guys guys!!!! We did it!!!

  21. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    ...sigh... And the countdown begins until someone believes the post and it's spread all over Twitter.

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  22. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

    Might be hard for them to find the tweet. lol
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  23. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

    If Vlade can convince the best young coach in the league to leave a successful situation to come to the Kings of a year ago, he can convince Otto Porter to join the Kings of today.

    The longer this goes on the more I think he signs our offer sheet and his agent puts pressure on the Wiz to let him go or at least a sign and trade.
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  24. Kingsfan23

    Kingsfan23 Well-Known Member

    Nets and Hawks/Knicks? Still, wouldn't get too excited.. 33% he signs our sheet, and then a less chance it goes through with Washington. Just hopes this comes to a quick resolution, can't afford to have this out here too long while other options are open
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  25. iowamcnabb

    iowamcnabb Active Member

    The only reason for the Wiz to decide not to match is if they feel a Wall/Beal/Porter trio is not good enough to compete for a championship. Even still, hard to give up a 24 year old ascending player for nothing. Probably better to sign him, give it a go until the deadline and then if it's not working, trade him for a nice haul. Here's hoping I'm wrong.
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  26. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

    The League is weird these days.

    If Porter and his agent decide he wants to be in Sacramento, I think he'll be in Sacramento. Agents have a ridiculous amount of power.
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  27. andjel

    andjel Well-Known Member

    It is confirmed :p

    As per resources Kings are front runners for Porter
    Otto Porter Jr.‏@OttoPorter
    That Vlade guy is very inspiring. Don't need to meet with any other teams. After reading the posts on, especially by The Hammer, I've made my decision. Sacramento here I come!
    5:41 PM - 2 July 2017
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  28. Čarolija

    Čarolija Well-Known Member

    I still fully expect the Wizards to match the offer I like that we are keeping the bastards honest (to use a quote from a former PM of Australia).
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  29. kingjatt

    kingjatt Well-Known Member

    David Falk owes us now we just got his client paid.
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  30. kingdivac

    kingdivac Well-Known Member

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