[Game] Kings @ Suns - 3/15/17 - 7PT/10ET

Discussion in 'Kings Rap' started by VF21, Mar 14, 2017.

  1. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    If you can catch the rebroadcast, you won't be disappointed. :)
  2. kingdivac

    kingdivac Well-Known Member

    Its nice that they win, but they need to think better of going any kind of streaks..... finally PapaG is getting a few minutes....that only took the whole season.
  3. Tetsujin

    Tetsujin The Game Thread Dude

    My thoughts exactly.
  4. Tetsujin

    Tetsujin The Game Thread Dude

    Also not to be that guy but our last two wins haven't exactly come against the Guy laden State Warriors
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  5. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    Nope, but the world just might be right-side up again. We barely beat a really bad team and will probably lose our next two in fine fashion. :)
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  6. KingsFanSince85

    KingsFanSince85 Well-Known Member

    This is spot on and something those arguing against simply aren't willing to acknowledge. Some of the rumors I've read suggest that many GM's didn't even know he was available in trade and had they known they likely would have made a competitive offer. Who knows what the net result would have been, but limiting your options certainly hurts trade value.
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  7. Tetsujin

    Tetsujin The Game Thread Dude

    "Trade us Ingram, Russell, and your next couple of first round picks."


    *fgoes to media* "I tried guys but Boogie's value was in the tank."
  8. funkykingston

    funkykingston Well-Known Member

    I thought based on talent Cousins was worth Boston's 2017 pick swap with a Brooklyn (pretty much guaranteed top 4 pick), Brooklyn's 2018 pick, Jaylen Brown, Amir Johnson (for cap reasons) and another young player or two - Rozier and/or the rights to Zizek.

    Turns out Boston wasn't interested at all.
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  9. Kingsfan23

    Kingsfan23 Well-Known Member

    It's considered that Jeannie Buss may have ousted her brother and Kupchak over the offer, so maybe just Ingram
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  10. Kingsfan23

    Kingsfan23 Well-Known Member

    I hope the resting players isn't due to the FO believing that's the only way our youth will get minutes....

    I still don't believe Joerger is handling the roster to develop. Would Papa play if a Tolliver was there? Galloway? Why isn't Ben playing?
  11. jcwkings

    jcwkings Well-Known Member

    We beat the teams on our level and will probably lose to any team above the bottom ten in the league, thats what we should expect. For some reason with Cousins we would probably lose one of these last two games, beat OKC and get blown out on a back to back in SA. 2-2 over the stretch the hair pulling way. We'll be 2-2 the "yeah that was expected" way.
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  12. King Baller

    King Baller Well-Known Member

    Willie showed a little nasty streak at times going for the ball. That time he inadvertently knocked Chriss to the floor while grabbing the ball was especially satisfying:)
  13. Mass

    Mass Well-Known Member Contributor

    I'm happy to see the kids get a W, great to see Skal and Willy play well, always nice to see the Kings win. But, I'm sorry, I can't be excited about it. The moment we traded Boogie, we decided this season was over. Now for me it's all about the best draft position we can get, and unfortunately every win hurts our draft position.
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  14. Tetsujin

    Tetsujin The Game Thread Dude

  15. Kingsroots

    Kingsroots Active Member

  16. Tetsujin

    Tetsujin The Game Thread Dude

    Lost in all the Skal hype is that Willie had a really really good game. 14pts, 11 rbs, 5 asts, 4 blks, 4 stls. That's a Draymond Green statline without the ball kicks and emotional meltdowns.
  17. allrightythen

    allrightythen Well-Known Member

    Skal was of course the star in this game and I was really impressed with him, but I was more surprised by Papagiannis. He wasn't great but his defense and aggressiveness in general was awesome to me. He wasn't scared or nervous as he seemed in the Magic game and I'm confident his scoring touch will come. If he continues taking steps I can really dig our PF/C crew of Koufos, WCS, Skal and Papagiannis. The length and size problems that they present in addition to their mobility has incredible potential.
  18. hrdboild

    hrdboild Well-Known Member

    They're shutting down Bledsoe and prying Brandon Knight off the scrap heap, the tank is fully on now! It's fun watching the Kings win with the young guns but this is probably the right time for us to adopt our best tanking pose as well. The Cousins trade will feel like a waste if we hustle our way down to the 8th spot or 9th spot and just miss on an elite SF or PG again.
  19. dude12

    dude12 Well-Known Member

    If we lose our pick, it would be incredibly stupid on the organizations part.......would be a major eff up on Vlade's part by not dumping the expirings.
  20. ockingsfan

    ockingsfan Well-Known Member

    The rumor in So Cal was that Vlade asked for Ingram and Russel, the Lakers refused to include Ingram in a DMC trade, thus the Kings traded DMC to N.O. for Buddy and a 1st round pick.

    Jeannie Buss was so pissed that her brother refused the trade and was too attached to players that he picked, so she fired him.
  21. gunks

    gunks Well-Known Member

    People talk about Cuz's departure opening things up for Skal.

    But one has to wonder if he'd still get these opportunities to play if Joerger's mancrush, Barnes, was still on the team?!

    As for Ben? I think Hield punched his ticket out of town. Mali was showing that he belonged, and we might get Bogdan next season. The Ben era is over.
  22. roasthawg

    roasthawg Well-Known Member

    I feel the same way...
    I'm not a Russell fan. Would've been very excited about Ingram for sure but I really like Buddy too and think he has a ton of upside. We'll see...
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  23. ockingsfan

    ockingsfan Well-Known Member

    Yes, the Kings need to lose more and keep their pick.

    But, if you watch the games closely, the Vets on expiring contracts are the ones actually getting us the Lins!!! ;)

    When the Kids are in, we are competing great and staying in the games. But, when Joeger puts in heavy Vets minutes at the end of games, the Kings ultimately lose down the stretch!!! :rolleyes:
  24. KingsFanGER

    KingsFanGER Well-Known Member

    I've been hard on Willie for the last few games. Time to give some credit again. Very good game, although he was out of control sometimes. Somehow Willie gets me excited and frustrated at the same time. :rolleyes:

    I like Papa G. When you come into your second NBA game as a 19 year old, there is nothing better, than to focus on basketball fundamentals. He moves his feet well, protects the rim, isn't afraid of contact, uses his body to box people out. Yes he looks confused on offense and sometimes got into peoples ways or didn't roll to the basket and earned a Joerger tirade that way, but hey the fundamentals are already in place.

    And Skal might have read 206's comments about him and Chriss and decided it's time to show up big time. ;)
    Loved it - most of the time poised and under control, aggressive at the same time and the skills seem to be there, also has his fundamentals down, which speaks for our coaching staff.
  25. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    Your comment about WCS leads me to make a similar comment about Papa G. He looked less lost and - as you pointed out - he seems to be comfortable with the basics. I'm still not sure what all Vlade saw but I'll admit there's more potential there than I first thought,
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  26. whozit

    whozit Well-Known Member

    A lot of people either ignored it or discredited it, maybe because they were upset at the pick but there were reports that Boston was looking at picking him a couple of picks later.
  27. Larry89

    Larry89 Disgruntled Kings Fan

  28. kingsboi

    kingsboi Well-Known Member

    Don't forget Toronto
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  29. hrdboild

    hrdboild Well-Known Member

    I think most of the Contra-Toronto magic might be gone now that we won't have Rudy/DeMarcus anymore as they were the primary factors when we dominated them early in the year, but maybe not. If we can pick our next match-up to inexplicably dominate my vote goes to Golden State. :)
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  30. ESP47

    ESP47 Well-Known Member

    Couple things I liked about this game other than the obvious.

    WCS went really hard after some of those rebounds. It seems like he wants to be "the guy" now that Cousins is gone and I'm wondering if he's feeling the competition with Skal there. Seemed like some extra effort there that we haven't seen from him in a while. Knocking Chriss over for that rebound was awesome.

    Papa looked a lot less lost out there. Made a good impact defensively with the 3 blocks and altered other shots. He could barely block a shot in summer league and now he's averaging 2.6 in the D League and carrying that over to the NBA. Very nice improvement. Was still out of position a lot and made some goofy plays but he at least just looked lost some of the time instead of most of the time. He has good tools offensively so his shots not falling is of no concern. Hopefully next game we see him in position most the time instead of half the time. I think the guy has shown he can improve his game with good coaching and practice.

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