[Game] Kings @ Mavericks - Friday, Oct. 20 - 5:30PT
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Where did I "overestimate the grand scheme"? My concern is Z-Bo is featured too prominently because of Joerger's affinity for vets and sentimentality towards a 36 year old with a 51% TS last season. Tonight his TS% was less than 50%. I am cool with him getting 10-15 MPG but playing 30 minutes as a starter? It won't work. Now if Z-Bo discovers the fountain of youth and becomes an efficient low post threat to make up for fact he has "cement shoes" on defense then his MPG can be reconsidered.
I like to look at the macro AND micro-view. The micro is beautiful and rosy with the sweet road win. The macro is encouraging on a few fronts with Fox and Willie over two games showing incremental strides and Jackson "hanging in there" but it is concerning if the minute distribution is Skal 13 MPG and Z-Bo 30 MPG or thereabouts. I would like to see those minutes flipped. If Joerger "rides and dies" with Z-Bo to the tune of 30 MPG, I guarantee you he will turn into this year's "Affalo" or "Marco" the guy fans are howling about, a gunner who plays no D, cannot rebound out f his area and grinds the offense to a halt.
I like to look at the macro AND micro-view. The micro is beautiful and rosy with the sweet road win. The macro is encouraging on a few fronts with Fox and Willie over two games showing incremental strides and Jackson "hanging in there" but it is concerning if the minute distribution is Skal 13 MPG and Z-Bo 30 MPG or thereabouts. I would like to see those minutes flipped. If Joerger "rides and dies" with Z-Bo to the tune of 30 MPG, I guarantee you he will turn into this year's "Affalo" or "Marco" the guy fans are howling about, a gunner who plays no D, cannot rebound out f his area and grinds the offense to a halt.
We need Zach because he gets double teamed, and if he doesn't, he gets close enough to the basket to get a quality shot or free throws, he was also the best rebounding player in the nba off the bench last year. The rest of the team is still quite soft and plays on the perimeter a little too much
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We 100% need him.
There are times you need to get a good shot off. He & Hill are the most reliable make a basket when it counts people on the team. Buddy is good when fed if that doesn't work out right away, but yeah.
We were spoiled with Cousins for awhile. A past his prime Zach isn't ideal, but best we got in many ways.
There are times you need to get a good shot off. He & Hill are the most reliable make a basket when it counts people on the team. Buddy is good when fed if that doesn't work out right away, but yeah.
We were spoiled with Cousins for awhile. A past his prime Zach isn't ideal, but best we got in many ways.
The macro view you can look at with Z-bo playing and vets getting minutes, especially down the stretch, is that the franchise is being taught how to win.
I love Skal, but I also like his confidence being built up. We've seen too many young players spirits get crushed in the past because they HAVE to come out The gate performing like an all star in order to help The franchise. The ability to let Fox run around and figure out how to use his speed with no pressure, and then have Hill stabilize and close out the game is perfect.
We're 2 games in. If Skal continues to play like he's been, his minutes will increase over time.
I love Skal, but I also like his confidence being built up. We've seen too many young players spirits get crushed in the past because they HAVE to come out The gate performing like an all star in order to help The franchise. The ability to let Fox run around and figure out how to use his speed with no pressure, and then have Hill stabilize and close out the game is perfect.
We're 2 games in. If Skal continues to play like he's been, his minutes will increase over time.
I like Fox's attitude so far. He was very confident on the floor in both games. He is not one of the rookies who dissappear after one missed shoot (because they don't want to ruin things), he has high self-confidence, and teammates and coach trust him too. He is not affraid to attack the basket and shoot or pass, and at the same time, his almost every move is smart one. He is also definitely not one of the rookies who takes 3 bad shoots after first miss. I hope he will continue doing the same...
I think the issue is those looking at the near term, a win, versus those looking at the longer term.
The minute distribution will be a concern if it continues but best to wait a few games and see how it goes. DJ may well be giving one or the other extended minutes on a back to back to fully get into the flow of the game.
Was hoping for one more top 5 pick but not sure that happens this year.
The minute distribution will be a concern if it continues but best to wait a few games and see how it goes. DJ may well be giving one or the other extended minutes on a back to back to fully get into the flow of the game.
Was hoping for one more top 5 pick but not sure that happens this year.
Joerger's teams have one of the highest scoring marks out of a timeout in the NBA. Joerger is a very good offensive coach. Unfortunately, he's doesn't get to go out onto the floor and run the plays, the players have to do that. Just what do you expect from a team that has ten players that are all on baby formula. It's going to take time.
Well it is like you can't see the forest because of the tree. Focusing on what is happening in one game can lead to hypothesis on limited data. Lets see what happens tonight and into the next ten games. Really for me the 40 game mark is going to be a time to reflect on how the team is building. Hopefully by then the minute distribution you describe is what we see
Really? A few games? It's going to take half a year or more before this team starts to resemble anything close to a well oiled machine. There are no shortcuts to building a winning franchise. It takes time! It's easier when you have a team full of veterans who have years of NBA experience, many of whom may have played together before, to get them all on the same page. But with a team full of players that are still trying to figure out where their lockers are, not so easy. Were relying on seasoned veterans like Buddy Hield in his 2nd year in the NBA to lead the charge. Defense won that game for us, and kept us in the Houston game. We should be praising that, and hoping that it continues.
Well it is like you can't see the forest because of the tree. Focusing on what is happening in one game can lead to hypothesis on limited data. Lets see what happens tonight and into the next ten games. Really for me the 40 game mark is going to be a time to reflect on how the team is building. Hopefully by then the minute distribution you describe is what we see
While I can't disagree with those who are criticizing Kosta, I think we do have to take his plight into consideration. As I pointed out after the Houston game, Kosta is a post player, and offensively, an opportunistic iso player. His strength is to just take what comes his way. His strength is not standing out in the high post and handling the ball. I think I used the team, a fish out of water. Unfortunately that's the offense the Kings are running, and I suspect that at some point, his minutes will decrease if he continues to struggle out there.
I will admit that I was surprised that Joerger rode him as long as he did last night, but then I remembered that they had to play again the next day at high altitude, so maybe Joerger was trying to give Willie a little more rest.
I will admit that I was surprised that Joerger rode him as long as he did last night, but then I remembered that they had to play again the next day at high altitude, so maybe Joerger was trying to give Willie a little more rest.
Look, no one likes ball and player movement more than I do, but the Kings signed Randolph, and he's going to play, So what do you want Joerger to do with a player whose entire game is based on isolation offense. Randolph was simply doing what Randolph does, and will continue to do as long as he's a King. You, I, or anyone else complaining about isn't going to change that. I think Joerger had him in at the end of the game because he understands the offense, and is less likely to make a mistake with the game on the line. Plus they had a mismatch with Barnes guarding him.
I'm going to research that, but so far as I can see, when you score more points than the other team, you win! They may have changed the rules, so I'll double check that.
It is easy to decide who wins if they score more point. But what happens when you make opponents score less points? Completely different
Seemed to me like we were tentative for long stretches last night which kept the Mavs in the game. I think this is just guys getting used to each other still and it will probably happen a few times here early in the season while guys are learning how to work together. I was really impressed that despite the struggles the guys kept working and grinding. It wasn't pretty but they figured it out, even with all that youth getting significant minutes.