[Game] Kings @ Clippers - Saturday, Jan. 13 - 12:30 PT

Discussion in 'Kings Rap' started by VF21, Jan 13, 2018 at 10:47 AM.

  1. SacTownKid

    SacTownKid Well-Known Member

    This is much better spacing. They are keeping the bigs up high off the ball or pushing them way under the rim creating more operating space.
  2. chief bromden

    chief bromden Well-Known Member

    Someone mentioned it recently, but I'm still unsure why Skal shortens himself to 5 feet tall while he is playing defense.
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  3. Joshoua

    Joshoua Well-Known Member

    Skal holding his own for the love of god unleash him if he doesn’t have to look over his back he gets better naturally
  4. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    And how does a young player with limited playing experience learn when his defense is inadequate? When he gets yanked for not guarding his man, switching when he should, paying attention, etc.

    At this point, Bogie is about the only young guy who looks like he has a clue what's going on out there. And as I type that, Hield is back as Bogs picked up his third foul.

    I have no answers to the problems the team is having right now. Unfortunately, I don't think anybody else does either.

    That dunk by Fox over Bad Boy Blake made me smile. :)
  5. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    If we could get some of those shots to fall, it wouldn't be nearly so bad. I've always suspected that Staples has a way to control/shrink the rims. :p
  6. jcwkings

    jcwkings Well-Known Member

    Willie has tripped over himself like three times trying to drive into the paint. Don't think I've ever seen that.
  7. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    Anybody still wonder why Buddy isn't getting more time? I've been in and out of the room doing some household chores and I've seen at least three stupid moves on his part since he came back in.

    Face it, guys. We suck. We have potential and I have every reason to still be very hopeful but there's just too much these kids need to learn before they're gonna be consistent at being anything but inconsistent. No ONE player is gonna make a difference.
  8. k_dubb90

    k_dubb90 Well-Known Member

    Not gonna lie, this year has been extremely hard to be a kings fan. My loyalty will always be there but my interest in even checking the box score on games is hanging by a thread.
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  9. Joshoua

    Joshoua Well-Known Member

    He could learn with by throwing him out there if we had a better option than yes but we don’t play Papa and Giles isn’t ready. He’s already gotten better at rebounding

    Meanwhile the franchise player ZBo has 0 across the board like damn at least grab a rebound.
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  10. SacTownKid

    SacTownKid Well-Known Member


    Is that what happened though? I certainly didn't see anything that stuck out any more than anyone else has done or is continuing to do. Also it's hard to preach D when you are still the worst team in the league on that end regardless of who you put out there.

    And the answers are right there. They are caught between old and young. They are playing two different systems, one geared towards the older players and one geared towards the younger ones and the former doesn't fit the younger ones. Players are now back to getting randomly inconsistent minutes. None of this is good, nor is it anything any reputable NBA team does and we are seeing exactly why this season.

    This is on Vlade now unless he his forcing a style of play on his coaching staff. If he's truly been staying out of the way it's reaching the point where he needs to interject some rational into this.
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  11. Capt. Factorial

    Capt. Factorial Cantry Member Staff Member Contributor

    Koufos is also zeros across. But he has both a foul and a turnover while Zach only has a turnover. Zach is going to need to step up (and by step up, I mean as in a moving screen) to catch up to Koufos.
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  12. Kingsfan23

    Kingsfan23 Well-Known Member

    What’s debatable is giving minutes by earning them over vets in the first place. Many lottery teams give young players run by the virtue that their young potential future rocks of the org
  13. SacTownKid

    SacTownKid Well-Known Member

    So, you don't think playing someone 3 minutes then sitting them for the next 20 some odd minutes has some sort of negative effect to their game? These wild swings in play is why you don't do this crap. Ah, the good 'ol days when the team made sense for those two games! And no, no one player is going to make a difference when you run this platoon crap. They seem to get going after the half so lets see if the broke clock gets right enough again to not make this look horrible per usual.
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  14. SLAB

    SLAB Well-Known Member

    I want Willie to shoot all the threes.

    I also want ZBo to leave forever.
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  15. SacTownKid

    SacTownKid Well-Known Member

    See, look at the spacing right now. It's the complete opposite of what they typically run. Willie and Zbo outside and the entirety of the middle is open. Willie looked good in the corner 3.
  16. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    We have a thread for that discussion. This isn't it.
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  17. Joshoua

    Joshoua Well-Known Member

    I’m turning it off if we go to ZBo again. ****ing stupid we were down to 14 and these fools feed him back to 21
  18. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    So any reason WHY Buddy Hield left Lou Williams wide open? I'm sorry but you do NOT reward bad defense like that by giving him more minutes.
  19. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    Nice play by Fox. :) I'd love to see the Kings give at least a little pressure before the ball gets over the line. Good things can happen.
  20. SacTownKid

    SacTownKid Well-Known Member

    He was up too high on that one but yes there was a reason, it's their system. I'm surprised Grant and Jerry don't know this already. Joegers system calls for helping off the corner 3's. Bogdan is doing the same thing on the other side as well. Buddy was too far up but the challenge wasn't bad even so.

    And again if that's a reason then some players shouldn't even be on the floor.
  21. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    Oh please. Just admit that Hield was out of position. I'm pretty sure Joeger isn't telling him to drop off Williams to cover the paint. But whatever...
  22. Joshoua

    Joshoua Well-Known Member

    I’m done with this poopoo y’all let me know when ZBo is subbed out. We’ve gone to that scrub more than Embiid, Twins, and Boogie get lost touches
  23. jcwkings

    jcwkings Well-Known Member

    Considering not watching team until some of the vets are traded. I can accept losing by 20 or more if the kids are playing through mistakes, but right now we are down 25 pts and all the team does is Zbo ISO after Zbo ISO. Just a wast of time, not just for myself but for the franchise.
  24. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    And AGAIN Hield drops off his man leaving him wide open. And yes, I rewound it to make sure before I said anything.
  25. SacTownKid

    SacTownKid Well-Known Member


    "He was up too high on that one..."


    I watched a special on NBA TV in the off season prior to Joergers first seasonthat described his defensive system and it most certainly is, or it was. They said very clearly that the Kings 3 point defense would most likely go down at the time but their paint defense would likely climb.
  26. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    What I meant was just admit he was out of position (which he has repeated several times since that post, BTW) and quit trying to always blame "the system" or Joerger. It was/is Buddy's fault that he consistently leaves his man wide open. A special before the season is not proof positive of what's happening right now.

    WATCH BUDDY ON DEFENSE. He's almost clueless out there. And I like him. I like his ability to get inside, I like his tenacity. I do not like his confusion when it comes to basic defense.
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  27. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    There. GOOD defense by Buddy, who stuck to Williams like glue. He needs to do that more often.
  28. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    Shouldn't mention it, I suppose, but it looks like the Kings are being allowed "extra step" privilege. :p
  29. YoungBlood

    YoungBlood Member

    Love to see Skal taking threes. Definitely makes him harder to defend. He’s looked decent today.
  30. fansinceday1

    fansinceday1 Well-Known Member

    I love fox out there when he doesn't have to play with zbo.

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