[Grades?]Kings v. Hornets - 2/25/17

Discussion in 'Kings Rap' started by VF21, Feb 25, 2017.

  1. Kingsfan23

    Kingsfan23 Well-Known Member

    A lot of apathy towards Buddy... Not his fault who he was traded for. I'm a fan, and think he will be solid
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  2. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    He's a rookie...stepping into the shoes (metaphorically speaking) of a future Hall of Fame player. It's normal for people to want to judge him by comparing him to said player. I don't expect a lot of him right now. In fact, I'm more interested in seeing Skal and WCS play. :)
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  3. King Baller

    King Baller Well-Known Member

    I don't think you could get Coach Malone to throw a game of tiddly winks with a 3 year old. But I do admire your will to persevere.
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  4. roasthawg

    roasthawg Well-Known Member

    Despite the score the game didn't suck to watch... Straight lin as far as I'm concerned.

    Skal is a revelation. He looks amazing out there.

    Buddy even in a bad game managed to contribute. He'll tighten up his handle over the summer I believe.

    Wcs was a non factor offensively after looking unreal last time out but he still managed to make some nice defensive plays.

    The young guys got plenty of run and we moved a little closer to keeping our pick with Dallas winning tonight.
  5. roasthawg

    roasthawg Well-Known Member

    Yeah Buddy needs a summer to work on his handle. He'll be much improved next year.
  6. King Baller

    King Baller Well-Known Member

    The Coaches will have to "feature" Willie in the offense to get his points I think. I did notice that the Hornets are a much better defensive team than the Nuggets. Also they had watched the Nuggets game and were watching the passing lanes to Willie.
  7. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    No offense, but we banned the use of the words "lin" and "woss" a while back.
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  8. roasthawg

    roasthawg Well-Known Member

    I kinda like the idea of Willie not being featured so much and getting his buckets when they're there. Just play great defense when his offense isn't there. With him and skal on the floor together there's a lot of athleticism in the front court. We'll see how it comes together
  9. parker

    parker Well-Known Member

    As Swaze wrote above, the Kings need more from Lawson and Collison. Both have been off the last two games, especially Lawson. Maybe he's still slowed by the hamstring.

    The lack of familiarity with each other seemed prominent today.
  10. The_Jamal

    The_Jamal Well-Known Member

    Perfect game script for us. Get the young guys run, find some nice moments from them and move closer to getting a better pick.

    I didn't catch much of the second half, but it should be noted WCS played amazing defense in the first half, despite the bad line. Also great seeing 13 boards from Skal in limited time.
  11. The_Jamal

    The_Jamal Well-Known Member

    Pelicans losing to a potential west playoff team is great for us too. Starting the post-cousins era off well
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  12. Kingsfan23

    Kingsfan23 Well-Known Member

    They have a relatively tough schedule, and no chemistry.

    At this point, I'm ambivalent to them winning. I think the top three protection is as big of a threat as them being a playoff team
  13. The_Jamal

    The_Jamal Well-Known Member

    It's not really close. If they miss the playoffs, it's likely they finish in the 9-12 range which makes it really unlikely theyou jump up. Lotto picks are pure gold this year, we need thato sucker
  14. allrightythen

    allrightythen Well-Known Member

    Skal was nice. We may struggle to score for a while yet. I have to ask why was Ben on Batum while Tyreke was out there? It was 2 days ago that was Ben beat up by a bigger stronger SF? I know he's probably gone after the season but I like Tyreke'so game. I think Hield, Temple, and Malachi are the only 3 current guys we keep.
  15. Blob

    Blob Well-Known Member

    The Pelicans were posting Boogie in the 4th and it wasn't working. I have been saying for years he's not reliable down there with TOs and forced shots. He's gotten better but he doesn't have a go-to move. Boogie only got 9 FGAs to Davis 34 FGAs. They are going to get better but their supporting cast is awful. Losing Omri is real blow because he could have been their 4th best player. Tomorrow the Pelicans have the rested Thunder on the road. That's likely going to put them at 0-3 post-trade. And the more the frustration grows the more likely Boogie gets another technical and misses game. Good news for us! The Pelicans schedule the rest of the way is pretty rough. I don't think their playoffs odds are very good unless they make dramatic improvement.
  16. jcwkings

    jcwkings Well-Known Member

    Charlotte is just a really bad matchup. They start three 6'8 long guys in Batum, Kidd Glichrest and Wiliams who were doing a great job of swarming the rollers on our picks and on offense they were exploiting their size on the wings. This team is gonna have success through pick and roll. At least Skal showed us something, great touch and is showing flashes of high level understanding of game and skill. That pump fake, put it on the floor and left hand hook was nice.
  17. jcwkings

    jcwkings Well-Known Member

    I would have thought NO would win this game, I mean they start Dirk at C. Scouting report is out though, just swarm Cousins in different ways(on the catch, at the rim, on the drive). Their roster is really bad outside of their top three guys. Reminds me of the Cousins, IT, Rudy team.
  18. Kingsfan23

    Kingsfan23 Well-Known Member

    Also disappointed with Collison. I was thinking this might be a stretch for him to prove to be a Jrue/Dragic type.. but I didn't feel his presence at all. Maybe Vlade thought you could keep that top ten with him on the roster
  19. Jeremy Fraser

    Jeremy Fraser Well-Known Member

    He had IT and Rudy. Either of them are perfectly capable 2nd options to lead us past 30 wins. Stop with the excuses.
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  20. Oldman

    Oldman New Member

    I went to this game. I was super hyped to see Willie. Oh well.
  21. pshn80

    pshn80 Well-Known Member

    Oh, come on, what did you expect. I was there, enjoyed the game and the players. Simple deal, our team, a bunch of newbies, in their second game together ran into a buzz saw of tough defense, hurried their shots and took bad ones and couldn't hit anything. Lots of good Kings stuff in this game, just not scoring. Keep coming back and watching this good stuff. Like a breath of fresh air.
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  22. Blob

    Blob Well-Known Member

    They did good job of taking away lob (and interior pass) to Willie (or Skal) after we destroyed the Nuggets with that play. But that happens when you go up against the 7th ranked defense vs. 30th ranked defense. Skal has touch and patience and nice arc on his shot. Its not uncommon for rookie to rush his moves but Skal has poise and knows he belongs.
  23. SLAB

    SLAB Well-Known Member

    IT was not the player he is today, and Rudy's brand of basketball has never won at any stop, period. It's not excuses, it's reality.
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  24. SLAB

    SLAB Well-Known Member

    I'll keep coming back and watching because I'm a Kings fan, but the "good stuff".... wasn't good for me.
  25. IfAt1st

    IfAt1st Well-Known Member

    Yeah, it's such a crazy theory that the Warriors are allowed to play a more aggressive, reaching style of defense that bats/steals more balls away than most teams.... :rolleyes:

    Next thing you know, the loony bin'll be after me for believing that they are also allowed to get away with an inordinate number of illegal screens.

    Good thing the reasonable KF's such as yourself are here to remind people that the refs call things consistently from game to game, with no ulterior motives involved....
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  26. gunks

    gunks Well-Known Member

    How they were able to bamboozle Vlade into giving them pick protection is beyond me.
  27. kingjatt

    kingjatt Well-Known Member

    This was a good learning experience game. Lets see what these guys can do when all the easy jumpers and lobs are crashed and youve got to make things happen.

    Not sure if Willie can be a franchise center because well hes not a conventional center. Very well could be but I hope we made some sort of effort to aquire Okafor he was throwing the ball in like a pinball tonight, very talented.
  28. Jeremy Fraser

    Jeremy Fraser Well-Known Member

    Well thankfully we aren't talking "winning brand of basketball" and are talking about eclipsing a mere 30 wins. Rudy (as the main/2nd option) did this multiple times in Memphis including a playoff birth. Getting to 30 wins means you've passed being abysmal and are simply a bad team. Are you going to sit there and tell me Rudy Gay and IT (whatever version) were not good enough to help Cousins get past that mark all but once?

    The cold, hard reality is that 30 wins should be able to be accomplished by any true superstar by themselves, yet it could barely be accomplished once with solid second options. Again, 30 wins. That's not a lot to ask for if you are supposed to be a franchise player.
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  29. steelevt

    steelevt Well-Known Member

    werent we around .500 when they played together? i remember reading a stat that said that, not counting games one of the 3 were out due to injury/suspension. then of course IT got shipped away and we never let our big 3 truly form and play a full season.
  30. mac

    mac Well-Known Member

    As bad as our half court offense was, it was our defense that gave this away IMO. Rotations were not crisp, and I don't really fault the guys because that's perhaps even harder to implement for players who haven't been playing together. I was mad that coach stuck with KK for so long, leaving Kaminsky for open shot after open shot.

    Wasn't happy with Tyreke's play in the first quarter, he needs to look to kick it out a lot more. In general he's a player that is going to the pound the ball a fair bit, and that does frustrate me at times especially given that he's somehow lost his ability to finish contested shots around the rim in the last 3 seasons. My guess is he just got so used to getting it on the board for AD to finish.

    Sad loss, but on to the next one!

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