Grades: Kings Summer League GAME 1, 7/7/17

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(Scape)GOAT of the Game

  1. Papa

    64.3%
  2. Buddy

    11.9%
  3. Skal

    4.8%
  4. Frank

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Vlade

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. It's all our faults

    19.0%
  1. ppine

    ppine Active Member

    The rookies played well.
    Fox has skills in every phase of the game with both hands. He seemed comfortable shooting from 18 feet but not from three land,...yet. A great finisher with NBA quality defense. I can see him getting lots of minutes.

    Kings back court looks to be in good shape for a change with Fox, Hield, Mason and later Hill.
    Jackson glides around the floor with great floaters. He is the next Rudy Gay.
    Skal looked much more lost than the rookies. He disapperared a lot of the time. That is concerning.
    Papa indeed did not look like he would make the roster. Slow with the feet and the hands. He is a project.
    Cooley out played Papa by quite a bit and he is not likely to be around either. Chriss made them both look inept.
  2. KingsFanSince85

    KingsFanSince85 Well-Known Member

    I think that is a possibility. Probably what they're evaluating during SL.
  3. pshn80

    pshn80 Well-Known Member

    Again, I can't disagree with your forecast but when it happens it will be a very unfortunate change in our world and it won't be because I cancelled my subscription or bad-mouthed the product. Newspapers are losing customers and income and do not have a bright future. It will be us-folks that are the losers in the process.
  4. John Galt

    John Galt Well-Known Member

    By the way, my saying "scores seem generous" was more a rhetorical device for me to express disappointment in the play of the sophomores than it was to criticize your judgement in assigning scores... just to be clear. The grades are great and I'm grateful for the people who take time out to construct "grade threads".
  5. Kingster

    Kingster Well-Known Member

    I also worry a little about Fox's health. That's why I'm not crazy about him playing a lot of minutes in his first year. As you said, he really needs to get considerably stronger, as he's in a man's league now. Kind of reminds me of Skal in that way. Lot's to like there for the future, though. Considering how dysfunctional the Kings were in general, I thought Jackson played extremely well. For a guy who is playing in his first pro game, it's easy enough to get caught up in the dysfunction of others, but Jackson just kept his poise and did his thing.
  6. John Galt

    John Galt Well-Known Member

    It's a sad thing for many people - but the Bee's own doing. They do not have a "home town paper" feel at all. there is no witty, folksy, self-deprecating, genuine, empathetic voice at the Bee - hasn't been for a long time. Example - to have a Laker fan like Jason Jones as the beat writer is just BS. The beat writer should be a biased homer fan who loves the Kings. Then you've got Aileen always snarking at the coach, the players, and she's such a social media dufus sub-tweeting herself all the time.

    They need a heavy duty makeover. I WANT to subscribe happily to my hometown paper. The Mountain Democrat doesn't have enough real content to satisfy me, but the Bee is just way too smug and remote. They do NOT feel like my hometown paper and I do have to admit that I wish them ill because of their editorial positions in the past (undermining Arena measures for example), their non-fan beat writer, and last but not least they ripped me off for around $22 bucks by charging me for papers they delivered after they lapsed my subscription. And.... they won't deliver to my doorstep because I'm on a rural road so they will only drop it in a box a half mile from my house.

    If somebody comes along and revives the Bee, I'll be thrilled. Not holding my breath.
  7. upinsmoke

    upinsmoke Well-Known Member

    Here and STR will keep anyone up to date on all team news.
  8. ElRey

    ElRey Well-Known Member


    Easily the most disappointing player for me yesterday. He had looked great with the added weight and rolled up afro prior. Then he plays with his afro out again and goes on to throw up a bunch of bricks. Still can't create a shot off the dribble.
  9. New Era

    New Era Well-Known Member

    It's because the game ended too late and they had already gone into printing. Yes, they suck but they didn't intentionally leave out the Kings box score.
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  10. KingsFanSince85

    KingsFanSince85 Well-Known Member

    Apparently the Kings already announced that he won't play in SL. Not due to injury, but because they want to allow him more time to fully recover from the injuries he's already had. They don't want to push him too hard too early.

    One play I don't recall reading anybody talking about was Fox's block on Josh Jackson out at the 3 pt line. You don't see too many PG's able to do that, especially to a 6'8" player. I'm wondering if that 'lil hitch Jackson has on his shot is gonna hurt him against bigger players. It allowed the 6'4" Fox time to recover in time for the block.
  11. 206Fan

    206Fan Well-Known Member

    It's too bad that the Kings game didn't start before the Lakers... I bet Lakers fans would've felt a real burn after seeing what a franchise PG should look like. Lonzo was awful. Couldn't break down defenses, and when he did, he was scared to finish. Took and missed a bunch of 3s. After his 2nd missed 3, Kendall Marshall didn't even care to guard him anymore. Just went under the screen and stared at him. no words for Papa.........................................................

    I've heard the announcers comment once about Papa arguing with his teammates. How was his body language on the bench? Dude needs to calm down sometimes. Attitude of DeMarcus without the talent..
  12. ockingsfan

    ockingsfan Well-Known Member

    Fox looks like a natural born leader. He commands the floor when he is on it. :)

    Justin Jackson is going to surprise. He looks ready to contribute now. :)
  13. OptimusRhyme

    OptimusRhyme Jive Turkey Contributor

    Yah Justin really surprised me aswell. His offensive game kinda reminds me of Kevin Martin. Efficient off-ball movement, hard cuts, weird running floaters, spot up threes, high shooting percentage.
    Loved what I saw from him.
  14. Joshoua

    Joshoua Well-Known Member

    Chriss is terrible man I'd hate to watch him over what we traded for. Dude lunches 3s at will and clanks them fouls routinely and has terrible body language. Always look st the ref I mean damn at least Boogie was an all world talent
  15. Iced Espresso

    Iced Espresso Well-Known Member

    Hey someone may take a shot at Cooley if he keeps it up. Someone said he was kinda like a Brockman, maybe so.

    My early takeaways.

    Fox, lightning fast, always talking, heard he can play some D and it sure looked like it. Looked great.

    Jackson looked pretty good offensively. Looked comfortable out there.

    Papa sets good screens, watch the player movement when he gets the ball, the team is rotating and he is observing and seeing the floor. That's a big deal. He isn't panicking or rushed. I think he will eventually be able to get a jumper off while being able to do this that is suitable. May need another season of development but the basic tool kit is there.

    Not much else stood out to me.
  16. jcassio

    jcassio Well-Known Member

    I have no regrets about passing on Chriss. He'll probably become a really good player, eventually. But I dislike players who have a pouty face and wear their emotions on their sleeve. Grow up. Please.
  17. Section 101

    Section 101 Well-Known Member

    He's 26 and been playing in the D League. Teams know who he is.
  18. VF21

    VF21 #KingsFansForever Staff Member Contributor

    I think your grades, for the most part, were spot on. Since you're the one doing this, I'd say it's your choice on what kind of criteria you use. Bottom line? THANKS for stepping up and doing it.
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  19. Warhawk

    Warhawk The cake is a lie. Staff Member Contributor

    IIRC, they removed the box scores from the sports section to save space. They said if you want the box scores you can go online. If I wanted to go online I wouldn't be reading the delivered paper, dumb***.

    We cancelled earlier this year. I sent an email complaining about the Kings coverage, having AV and JJ cover the Kings, the fact they couldn't get the paper to land in our 20+ foot wide driveway but kept putting it in the ditch full of water along the roadway, and other things.
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  20. pshn80

    pshn80 Well-Known Member

    Sorta, if you are willing and able to sift thru the the mountains of opinion that looms over "news" in a ratio of at least 10 to 1. A similar thing can be said about the internet- the ratio of "news" to photos and videos is also at least 1 to 10. News papers win this competition by a wide margin but only if they provide the news in the first place which they used to do before readership and revenues began their steady decline.
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  21. Suicide King

    Suicide King Well-Known Member

    I think Malachi will look a lot better by the end of SL. Aside from the three he nailed, his other touches came from dump passes where he was forced to create. Spacing in SL is awful and he struggled trying to make something happen. He referred to himself as "The Forgotten One" and I bet that doesn't sit well. He will get better and more comfortable playing at the 3 rather than the 2 .
  22. SLAB

    SLAB Well-Known Member

    Malachi didn't have a good game, but he looked every bit the same size as Josh Jackson who is only a SF. That stood out more to me than any stats did or didn't put up.
  23. jcassio

    jcassio Well-Known Member

    I'd say Jackson has 1 inch on him, but Malachi looks stronger.
  24. Suicide King

    Suicide King Well-Known Member







    Jason March briefly touches on Harry and then Papa at the end but nothing earth shattering.
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2017
  25. Mike

    Mike Active Member

    Only just got round to watching the game but I felt our young players did well. Fox made some good plays and showed that explosiveness and quickness. Buddy was disappointing from 3pt range but found other ways to score. Justin Jackson shot well. Pappa grabbed those boards and Skal had his moments, and both getting 2 blocks apiece shows they've both got rim protecting potential. Overall, a decent enough start but plenty of room to improve.

    The great thing about our summer league team that played against the Suns is that all but one of them (Cooley) should be on our main roster this season. At some point they might even form a starting five. So this is great experience for them playing together and getting used to each other's games in a competitive environment.
  26. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

    Nice grade thread. But it's just one game.
  27. sono

    sono Well-Known Member

    Please post the game highlights if available. I'm on the road struggling with the nba site on my pad.
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  29. biltalent

    biltalent Well-Known Member

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