Frank Mason looks good in first pre-season game

Discussion in 'Kings Rap' started by jcassio, Oct 3, 2017.

  1. jcassio

    jcassio Well-Known Member

    Mason impressed in his first preseason game. He reminds me of IT in terms of being a great competitor, but not nearly as one-dimensional. Fox is the real deal, unlike Jimmer, but Mason will not take seconds (or thirds) easily. This is going to be fun.
  2. Vladizzle

    Vladizzle Active Member

    We basically have a stronger Isiah Thomas and a Conley/Wall hybrid in our PG slots..oh and George Hill.

    Okay, I'm getting a little carried away now.
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  3. Tetsujin

    Tetsujin The Game Thread Dude

    Frank has a lot of IT in his game both in his slight heroball "I'm taking this shot whether you like it or not" demeanor and overall skillset. For short dudes, both guys are probably stronger than they are fast. The big thing that Frank probably has over IT is that, while he's undersized, he still looks bigger than IT, and, additionally probably a little more committed to playing team defense than IT was in his stint with the Kings. Now, IT probably had the bigger chip on his shoulder than Frank did and probably came into the league as a better scorer than Mason did but it's certainly not a horrible comparison. (Not pegging the dude to be a future MVP candidate though)
  4. pshn80

    pshn80 Well-Known Member

    How about we forget IT and just say that Mason looks good, is very competitive and has game. Potential of high caliber backup. Look out Fox, don't slip up.
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  5. ESP47

    ESP47 Well-Known Member

    Mason impressed for sure. I don't think he will ever be able to overcome his defensive deficiencies due to his size, but he's definitely game. Had ice in his veins on that three point shot he had to chuck over the taller defenders head with the shot clock running out. He also got by his man more than I was expecting since he's not really a speedster. Also got in there and crashed the boards as well. I'm curious to see how he adjusts once teams start scouting him.

    It's kind of funny how the "fearless" label has been placed upon him. I've noticed they only put that label on shorter players.
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  6. upinsmoke

    upinsmoke Well-Known Member

    For goodness sakes can we please stop digging that rabbit hole?!
  7. OptimusRhyme

    OptimusRhyme Jive Turkey Contributor

    Loved his poise with the ball.. He didn't look shook at all.. Def dosen't play like a rookie. I'm hoping he gets 15-20 mpg this year. Maybe play George a bit more at the two to get all the PG's significant playing time.
  8. kingdivac

    kingdivac Active Member

    10-deep rotation maybe 11 - if not - bah-humbug - totally on the coach. That would be a nice upside for minutes distribution and injury prevention. This team may surprise pleasantly - high 30s in wins seems more plausible than I thought earlier on first impression.

    Mason reminds of Jameer Nelson a little bit. No lack of confidence there.
  9. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

    I'd take Frank Mason over IT even today.

    IT just doesn't have the right mentality for being a team player unless he's the #1. Good for him that he found a team where he can be that. But I don't want to hitch my wagon to IT, and you have to, if he's on your team. Your entire offense has to be geared around him.

    Oh, and FM3 looks like a better 3pt shooter. Like, potential to shoot 45% type shooter. For a 6th man PG type, that is exactly the skill you want, and pairs nicely with Fox, for a potential future uber scoring small ball backcourt.

    Did we seriously go from almost no long term solution at PG to the best PG depth in the league in one offseason? Is that what I'm seeing here??!??!
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  10. King Baller

    King Baller Well-Known Member

    What is Frank Mason's contract situation? As a second round pick is he a Free Agent sooner?
  11. King Baller

    King Baller Well-Known Member

    Wait until the Kings Team plays a few televised games and the trade offers start rolling in from Fans trying to snatch the Kings Young Guns:)
  12. The Hammer

    The Hammer Well-Known Member

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    King Baller Well-Known Member

  14. HndsmCelt

    HndsmCelt Well-Known Member

    Size certainly limits how a player can defend but it does not mean they can't. Doug Christie credits the Bobby Jackson with helping him bring defensive intensity to the Kings. Also from my seat it was Bobby's defense along with his BB IQ that convinced Adelman to sit Williams in 4th quarters opting for B Jax instead. When we watch the undersized guards in the contemporary game it is easy to point out that guys like Isiah, and Boykins do not defend well, but when we look at guards in general most of them don't defend all that well and Harden is an all star with out playing any. This is why guys like Connolly are so highly prized.

    Now there is no way Mason is going to become a stopper, or defend face up shooing, but he could become a Ronnie Price type pest.
  15. ppine

    ppine Well-Known Member

    So you would take an untested rookie over last year's MVP candidate and all-star?
    That helps explain why the Kings haven't had a winning season in a decade.
  16. jcassio

    jcassio Well-Known Member

    Two questions:
    1. Who or what are you responding to?
    2. Assuming you’re responding to The Hammer, how does one person’s post explain why the Kings haven’t had a winning season in a decade?
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  17. allrightythen

    allrightythen Well-Known Member

    I really liked the George Hill signing and I'm glad he's on the team, but I would not be surprised if Mason and Fox earn minutes to the point where George Hill becomes more valuable as a trade option than an on-court asset. I'm not there yet, but both young guys seem ahead of where you would expect a rookie PG to be. Our guard situation under Vlade quickly went from "meh" to "what are we going to do with all this young talent?"
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  18. curiousfork

    curiousfork New Member

    I love that he adjusted quickly. He had an ok preseason but looked really comfortable going head to head with damien lilard. Read Frankie's player tribune. He's got that IT heart
  19. ESP47

    ESP47 Well-Known Member

    Best case scenario would be Fox and Mason look good enough to start and backup while we flip Hill for a need like a defensive/rebounding minded SF or big man.
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  20. ppine

    ppine Well-Known Member

  21. KingsFanSince85

    KingsFanSince85 Well-Known Member

    He may have a 3 yr deal, but can he opt out after year 1 or 2? I'm thinking of Gilbert Arenas when I ask that question. I recall that the Warriors options were limited trying to match outside offers. I believe the rules have changed since then, but that doesn't mean the Kings are in the clear should he show a lot of promise.
  22. allrightythen

    allrightythen Well-Known Member

    It wouldn't surprise me at all if that happened. We have so much youth I'm hard pressed to say what exactly our needs are/might be before seeing exactly how these young guys develop. It's weird following a team with so much promise but having no idea what to expect this season.
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