Following 2018 draftees

Discussion in 'Prospects' started by Ozymandias, Jul 25, 2017.

  1. "The Serbian Sniper"

    "The Serbian Sniper" Well-Known Member

    ...and 0 turnovers for 36 minutes. He looked like mature and experienced player next to Spanish "superstars". And this was just an average game for him....
  2. Joshoua

    Joshoua Well-Known Member

    Apparently he measured at 8' 9.5" and weighed 228 at a summer testing at P3 training center in California.

    Is Luka Dončić 2018 NBA draft 1st pick?


    He has a 8'9 1/2 Standing Reach
    Here's P3 comments on him based on 2016 summer measurements/testing:

    Luka has spent a few weeks at P3 the past two summers. Luka combines outstanding anthropometric measurements, including an 8'9.5" standing reach (88th percentile for NBA guards) and 228.8 lbs of mass with very competitive and improving movement qualities. In the lateral plane, Luka's ability to abduct the hip (1 dev above the mean) allows him to generate Force more efficiently than most NBA players that we've assessed (71st percentile in lateral acceleration). He's become particularly adept in a change-of-direction environment, where his Slide Agility times outpace most NBA Guards tested at P3 and they've improved by roughly 0.25s in the past year. Vertically, Luka ranks better than 73% of NBA guards in height touched during the approach and his improved his countermovement jump by 2 inches in the past year. He's good now, he's still getting better, and he's well within his physical development window!

    https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1584464#p58586672
  3. bajaden

    bajaden Well-Known Member

    That's probably more info than I needed, but thanks. If his standing reach is indeed 8'9.5", then he's capable of playing SF. Don't know if that's his best position or not, but with his skill set, you might be able to put him just about anywhere.
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  4. Tetsujin

    Tetsujin The Game Thread Dude

    While reach is definitely important, I'm more concerned about his quickness and lateral mobility than anything else. Should be interesting seeing him work against a crafty guy like Bogdan.
  5. bajaden

    bajaden Well-Known Member

    Well, if he has to guard a position, and quickness is a problem, then guarding the SF position is definitely easier from a quickness point of view than guarding a SG or a PG. That's why I'm interested in his height and length. I think his chances of being successful defensively would be better at SF. Although I've read some scouting reports that said his lateral quickness and awareness have improved, so it may be a moot point.

    One thing is for sure. Just about every scout I know says that Doncic comes as close to being a sure bet as there is. He's done things in the FIBA at 18 years of age that no European player has ever done before. They all agree that he's not an elite athlete, but then point out that neither was Larry Bird, or Dirk Nowitski, or Kevin McHale etc. One said that Doncic has the highest floor of anyone in next years draft. That's high praise.
  6. 206Fan

    206Fan Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised the FBI are the ones who actually stepped in.

    HS recruiting is extremely shady on all levels.
  7. bajaden

    bajaden Well-Known Member

    One has to wonder how much collateral damage there will be once the smoke settles. I think a lot of coaches and assistant coaches are hunkering down. out of sight right now. hoping the FBI doesn't come knocking.
  8. 206Fan

    206Fan Well-Known Member

    All schools are involved in some kind of skimpy recruiting, but I guess it'll come down to whether or not they did it "legally" vs "illegally". As of right now, I don't see any of the top prospects being affected.

    On one hand, I think these teams, agents, and companies are exploiting teenagers and their families. On the other, it's a positive financial gain for these families.

    Maybe we should allow a European development approach.
  9. bajaden

    bajaden Well-Known Member

    Well it's been my opinion for some time that the players should be compensated in some way. The schools support their entire sports program with the money they make off NCAA football in general and with NCAA basketball coming in second. It's so stupid,that if a coach buys a player a hamburger that player might be deemed ineligible.

    To the best of my knowledge, I have never heard that giving money to a player is a criminal offense. It's certainly an NCAA offense, but with the FBI involved, there has to be more going on than just paying off players. Money laundering perhaps?
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  10. Telemachus

    Telemachus Well-Known Member

    Woj has a good podcast where they go into it some. It sounds like a big part of it was asst. coaches taking money to try and influence players decisions.
  11. "The Serbian Sniper"

    "The Serbian Sniper" Well-Known Member

    Monster game for Doncic at the start of the new Euroleague season.
    27 points (9/14 FG, 6/7 ft), 4 assists , 4 rebounds for only 26 minutes.

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  12. 206Fan

    206Fan Well-Known Member

    Hmm, maybe we're seeing an evolution in Doncic's game. He was a better playmaker and facilitator at 16yearsold than he is now. However now, he's improved as a scorer. I'm starting to see Doncic less as a floor general, and more wing that can handle the ball. Instead of a Lonzo, more of a Gordon Hayward.

    geez Doncic, thanks for throwing away all of my scouting notes from the past 2 years lol.
  13. bajaden

    bajaden Well-Known Member

    I doubt he forgot how to be a facilitator. Sometimes when your asked to carry more of the offensive load, it can take away from the other things your good at. If your asked to score more, that means you become less likely to pass the ball. Instead you shoot it. Therefore, your assist numbers go down. A simplification, but I think you get what I mean. I think Doncic is developing into a player that can do anything that's asked of him. If the Kings end up with a top five pick, I'm happy! But I would prefer a top two pick. Porter and Doncic both fit very well into what the Kings need. That said, I wouldn't cry over ending up with Bagley, Ayton, or Bamba.

    If we slide out of the top five, then my next target is probably Miles Bridges. Let me be clear though, I saying this now, and that may change 10 games into the college season. Can't wait for the season to start.
  14. "The Serbian Sniper"

    "The Serbian Sniper" Well-Known Member

    He heard you and he had 10 assists in yesterday tough win against Valencia, with 16 points, 7 rebounds and 50% FG :D
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  15. 206Fan

    206Fan Well-Known Member

    It's really strange lol. I'm thinking he can handle both roles as a primary playmaker or primary scorer. This brings for lots of versatility in various lineups. The kid is just really talented.


  16. bajaden

    bajaden Well-Known Member

    Yeah, he's certainly making a case for being the first pick in the draft. Sill early though. I can't wait to see who the dark horse is that emerges from the pack this year.
  17. Sactown ExPat

    Sactown ExPat Member

    Kevin Knox...all the tools in an NBA body.
  18. bajaden

    bajaden Well-Known Member

    He's on my, to watch list. Along with many others. I'm going into this season assuming that the Kings will have a top five pick. However, one has to be prepared for different outcomes. Perhaps even another trade on draft day where we trade down. I seriously doubt that the Kings would be looking for another two for one deal with so much youth already on the team, but you don't want to get caught with your pants down.

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