[Game] Kings @ Trailblazers, Saturday, 11/18 - 7 PT
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That's one time. And of course we jumped 5 slots. The cosmos was messing with us because we had to trade that pick away. 
The chips are gonna fall where they fall. I still think worrying about the draft pick in November is just premature but I've put my soap box away on that issue. I still think some people forget, however, that it's a crap shoot and not a sure thing as far as what draft pick lands in our lap.
The chips are gonna fall where they fall. I still think worrying about the draft pick in November is just premature but I've put my soap box away on that issue. I still think some people forget, however, that it's a crap shoot and not a sure thing as far as what draft pick lands in our lap.
Not a fan of the kk plus Willie lineup. Two non shooting bigs or even two bigs in general just arent the future. Nearly every contending Team is going down the route of interchangeable players grouped around one big at maximum.
Willie isnt skilled enough to play at the wing, so he has to learn to play as the lone big.
Kings still believe in the traditional approach and that has led to is drafting too many bigs, while we are still short on strong, athletic interchangeable wings.
Willie should play more in lineups with Jackson at the 4, than playing alongside KK. He might be more comfortable next to a big, but this season is about the future and Willie's Natural position is the "big" going forward.
Willie isnt skilled enough to play at the wing, so he has to learn to play as the lone big.
Kings still believe in the traditional approach and that has led to is drafting too many bigs, while we are still short on strong, athletic interchangeable wings.
Willie should play more in lineups with Jackson at the 4, than playing alongside KK. He might be more comfortable next to a big, but this season is about the future and Willie's Natural position is the "big" going forward.
Joerger's misuse of Fox should be considered abuse. Can we run some screens for this guy please? He's going to break the kids confidence by making the game a million times harder for him than it needs to be. Our offense is designed to run through some of our weakest offensive players while the strong offensive players are just there to bail them out at the end of the shot clock when there's nothing else left.
I'm just confused by it. I mean they run the high post most the time regardless of who is out there but they were running screens for nearly every other ball handler and Fox only got 1 or 2 ran for him. I'm not saying Fox doesn't carry any fault in it because he's gotten the ball slapped away nearly every time he's gotten in the paint but Joerger is putting him in about the worst possible position a guy with his skill set could be in.
The Blazers ran Lillard and McCollum off of screens at the very beginning of nearly every possession and look at how many wide open buckets they got? Compare that to the Kings...how many layups do our guards usually get in a game? Usually 2 or less.
The Blazers ran Lillard and McCollum off of screens at the very beginning of nearly every possession and look at how many wide open buckets they got? Compare that to the Kings...how many layups do our guards usually get in a game? Usually 2 or less.
Don’t agree. KK and WCS so far mprove us a lot. The future s now first. These players need to see s putting our best foot forward NOW. We shall see what works and what doesn’t work. Joerger is doing a good job getting experience for the guys and seeing what works.
On another subject, anyone know why Jackson has not played in the last two games?
On another subject, anyone know why Jackson has not played in the last two games?
You built a franchise by developing a vision first. The way to go is obviously more towards a perimeter oriented game with defenses able to switch most pick&rolls.
Thats until the league finally moves away from favoring perimeter players, which I doubt will happen very soon.
We are rebuilding this team from the ground up. Where is the sense in tearing everything down only to follow an outdated approach towards the Game?
Look at the contending teams and the young and coming teams. Wether its the Celtics, Warriors, Thunder, 76ers or Bucks - you wont beat these teams with a traditional approach.
Thats until the league finally moves away from favoring perimeter players, which I doubt will happen very soon.
We are rebuilding this team from the ground up. Where is the sense in tearing everything down only to follow an outdated approach towards the Game?
Look at the contending teams and the young and coming teams. Wether its the Celtics, Warriors, Thunder, 76ers or Bucks - you wont beat these teams with a traditional approach.
It's not about the rotations at all. It's about the system being ran. It didn't take a rocket surgeon before the season to realize that Fox needs to come off screens and get dribble penetration, Hill needs to play a lot of off ball, Hield needs open shots, Bogie needs to be in PnR situations etc etc. You know, let these guys do what they're actually good at.
Look at the statistics of our guards. Everyone is below their career norms or far worse than we thought out of college. That is coaching.
George Hill is leading all our guards with a .420 FG%. That is beyond awful and completely Joerger's fault.
Look at the statistics of our guards. Everyone is below their career norms or far worse than we thought out of college. That is coaching.
George Hill is leading all our guards with a .420 FG%. That is beyond awful and completely Joerger's fault.
I agree for the most part with you.
However we have been missing WIDE OPEN looks with regularity. Many different players, wide open looks, too many misses. If they can start knocking down the open shots even somewhat more consistently, and our defensive intensity of the last two games continues, we would look a whole lot better.
Edit: As for the system being used, who is to say it isn't also in flux, like most everything else with this current team? It may not make sense at the moment, but I'd wager there is a reason or two. Maybe it's a stealth tank.
However we have been missing WIDE OPEN looks with regularity. Many different players, wide open looks, too many misses. If they can start knocking down the open shots even somewhat more consistently, and our defensive intensity of the last two games continues, we would look a whole lot better.
Edit: As for the system being used, who is to say it isn't also in flux, like most everything else with this current team? It may not make sense at the moment, but I'd wager there is a reason or two. Maybe it's a stealth tank.
So in essence, we have hired a high school History teacher to be a college professor, who teaches alternate history from his own textbooks because that's what he believes in.
Additionally, all the students are visual learners, but are being forced to read textbooks and memorize instead.
Additionally, all the students are visual learners, but are being forced to read textbooks and memorize instead.
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Look I just want a successful and promising playoff run in the next few years for the Kings. I am not trying to convince anyone that Joerger or even Vlade for that matter are the answer, because I don't know whether they are or aren't. I do however believe that we have not had enough time to declare anything with certainty.
Look I just want a successful and promising playoff run in the next few years for the Kings. I am not trying to convince anyone that Joerger or even Vlade for that matter are the answer, because I don't know whether they are or aren't. I do however believe that we have not had enough time to declare anything with certainty.
I understand what you're saying, but their will be players who could help (and possibly be home runs) after the 5th pick.
I think most would assume the top 5 would consist of Ayton, Bagly III, Doncic, Porter and Bomba. Don't sleep on Bridges or Jackson on Mich. St. There is also Robert Williams. There are always others who show up throughout the year.
I think most would assume the top 5 would consist of Ayton, Bagly III, Doncic, Porter and Bomba. Don't sleep on Bridges or Jackson on Mich. St. There is also Robert Williams. There are always others who show up throughout the year.
Did you watch the game? I only ask because seeing WCS/KK out there had a lot of tangibles that don't necessarily show up in the box score.
How do you figure what Willie's natural position is? Again I have to point to what you see with your eyes as opposed to what the stat lines might tell you, although even the stat lines seem to indicate he's doing pretty good at the 4. And, if we end up getting Ayton in the draft ( ) I think WCS/Ayton could be very interesting. In addition, we have Papa G, and we don't know how he's going to develop yet.
So, sorry but I think you're making a lot of assumptions about WCS and his future that simply are too soon or are not borne out by the facts at hand.
How do you figure what Willie's natural position is? Again I have to point to what you see with your eyes as opposed to what the stat lines might tell you, although even the stat lines seem to indicate he's doing pretty good at the 4. And, if we end up getting Ayton in the draft (
) I think WCS/Ayton could be very interesting. In addition, we have Papa G, and we don't know how he's going to develop yet.So, sorry but I think you're making a lot of assumptions about WCS and his future that simply are too soon or are not borne out by the facts at hand.
Did you watch the game? I only ask because seeing WCS/KK out there had a lot of tangibles that don't necessarily show up in the box score.
How do you figure what Willie's natural position is? Again I have to point to what you see with your eyes as opposed to what the stat lines might tell you, although even the stat lines seem to indicate he's doing pretty good at the 4. And, if we end up getting Ayton in the draft ( ) I think WCS/Ayton could be very interesting. In addition, we have Papa G, and we don't know how he's going to develop yet.
So, sorry but I think you're making a lot of assumptions about WCS and his future that simply are too soon or are not borne out by the facts at hand.
How do you figure what Willie's natural position is? Again I have to point to what you see with your eyes as opposed to what the stat lines might tell you, although even the stat lines seem to indicate he's doing pretty good at the 4. And, if we end up getting Ayton in the draft (
) I think WCS/Ayton could be very interesting. In addition, we have Papa G, and we don't know how he's going to develop yet.So, sorry but I think you're making a lot of assumptions about WCS and his future that simply are too soon or are not borne out by the facts at hand.
The reason Willie likes playing with Koufos, and why it works so well, is that they have each others backs, and they trust each other on defense. How many times this season has Willie left his man to stop the ball, only to have his man dunk behind his back because no one rotated over to cover him. That doesn't happen when Koufos is on the floor. With Koufos out there Willie feels safer and plays more aggressively on defense. They have pretty good chemistry on offense as well. Plus, Koufos struggles in the high post. With Willie out there, Koufos moves down low where he's more comfortable and Willie occupy's the high post. It may not be perfect, but it's better than any other match the Kings have.
