Now that we know the draft order, who do we draft? (New thread)

Kingster

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I feel Tatum is almost a can't miss prospect. His videos are just so solid. I doubt He slips past the Suns. I would be really happy if we were able to draft him.Which makes me think we will get either Jackson or Fox at 5.
Tatum seems to be a guy with very low risk compared to others in the top 5, which may make him rise in this draft.
 

Kingster

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Hate to throw this out there, but over the past decade, how many times have ANY of us actually been right who they draft? I wanted McCollum, I wanted Lillard, but I also wanted BMac, when Robinson fell? I wanted that pick, too, so my judgment is as much rubbish as anyone else's...lol

If we end up with Fox OR DSJ with the 5th pick, I'll be thrilled.
Given that the McLemore draft was an all-around low talent year, you get a pass on the BMac pick as far as I am concerned, which means you're batting over .500, which is pretty good in my book. (I thought the Robinson pick was going to be a good pick also, but one doesn't know about things like coachability when you're doing this from afar).
 
I really would like for the rivalry to be renewed. I just want the Kings to beat them in every meaningful contest of the rivalry.
The Kings and Lakers do have a rivalry as they're both fairly poor. Problem is the Lakers have the history squarely in hand. Kings are a flunky of a franchise which imo makes them more lovable. They're our flunky!
 
The Sixers taking Monk at #3 would be ideal. I think in that scenario that the Suns jump on Jackson but even if they did take Fox it would still mean the Kings get a guy I really like.

But I think it's more likely that if Philly wants Monk they trade down to do it. They know it's unlikely that the Suns take him so there'd be little risk in a trade down with the Kings. They'd probably ask for #5 & #10 but I don't think I'd do that just to guarantee Fox or Jackson.

I WOULD do it if somehow Ball slipped to #3
That's just how I see it working out if there are no trades. There's always 1 or 2 guys that teams always reach for. No one had Jaylen Brown going 3, but he did. If the 6ers don't trade the pick, I really think they take Monk. But in reality I think there are going to be a lot of trades in this draft.
 
You're right, he's average height maybe, not smallish, you happy now? The world needs more pedants like you.....off ya go.
Yes thank you. If correcting a "minor" thing like a basketball player's height and size is being a pedantic, then I'll be a pedantic everyday. After all, the players height is not that important right? Esp for a basketball player.
 
I hate guys with weird corkscrew shots. I hate the way it looks. I hate everything about it. Except when the ball goes in. Then for some strange reason I forgive the guy with the weird shot, guys like Jamaal Wilkes, Reggie Miller, Kevin Martin, even Larry Bird. I couldn't stand the way they shot the ball. It's rude, it's unsymmetrical, it's just ugly. Eventually, I learned to live with it.
I must point out it seems to be only corkscrew when his feet are set. I think it's his own idiosyncrasy of targeting - (wind-up/process of shooting motion).
Kevin Martin shooting is a good likeness.
 
Given that the McLemore draft was an all-around low talent year, you get a pass on the BMac pick as far as I am concerned, which means you're batting over .500, which is pretty good in my book. (I thought the Robinson pick was going to be a good pick also, but one doesn't know about things like coachability when you're doing this from afar).
You guys are batting much higher than me if it makes you feel better. 2014 I wanted Noah Vonleh, 2013 BMac, 2012 Jeremy Lamb, 2011 Klay Thompson, 2010 Demarcus Cousins, 2009 Tyreke Evans, 2008 - JJ Hickson, and 2007 Acie Law.
 
Yes thank you. If correcting a "minor" thing like a basketball player's height and size is being a pedantic, then I'll be a pedantic everyday. After all, the players height is not that important right? Esp for a basketball player.
Jeez you dont quit do you....please go away - Thanks. NO REPLY NECESSARY OR DESIRED.
 

funkykingston

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I hate guys with weird corkscrew shots. I hate the way it looks. I hate everything about it. Except when the ball goes in. Then for some strange reason I forgive the guy with the weird shot, guys like Jamaal Wilkes, Reggie Miller, Kevin Martin, even Larry Bird. I couldn't stand the way they shot the ball. It's rude, it's unsymmetrical, it's just ugly. Eventually, I learned to live with it.
Peja had his knees pointed together, brought the ball over from the left side and realesed with his elbow pointing up. Ray Allen got almost no rotation on his shot.

The biggest thing is having that straight, consistent release point. For almost all great shooters, even those with ugly form, if you freeze frame as the ball is leaving their hands you see an almost textbook release.

This is true of Lonzo Ball too. His shot mechanics are compleletly ugly up until the release. Then it looks perfect.

What's the difference between a good shooter with bad form and a poor shooter with a broken shot? In the simplest sense it's just that one guy's shot goes in consistently and the other's doesn't. There's a feedback loop of confidence that goes along with consistently hitting (or consistently missing) shots too.

But it's more than that. When I say that a guy has a broken jumper it's generally because the movements are not only funky but aren't fluid and/or have too many moving parts that individually aren't consistent. A hitch is a big one. Inconsistent release point is a big one. Guide hand interference. Different mechanics when set vs being rushed.

I like watching textbook mechanics too. And like you I'll live with an ugly shot if it works.

Fortunately for Fox he doesn't have an ugly shot or terrible mechanics. I think he can be a consistent shooter in time.
 

gunks

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Seems like Fox is getting the most hype pre-draft. SI just released an article about how he should go 2nd (!).

I really hope he doesn't go top 4. But if he does we end up with one of Tatum or Jackson so I suppose it's not the end of the world.
 
Peja had his knees pointed together, brought the ball over from the left side and realesed with his elbow pointing up. Ray Allen got almost no rotation on his shot.

The biggest thing is having that straight, consistent release point. For almost all great shooters, even those with ugly form, if you freeze frame as the ball is leaving their hands you see an almost textbook release.

This is true of Lonzo Ball too. His shot mechanics are compleletly ugly up until the release. Then it looks perfect.

What's the difference between a good shooter with bad form and a poor shooter with a broken shot? In the simplest sense it's just that one guy's shot goes in consistently and the other's doesn't. There's a feedback loop of confidence that goes along with consistently hitting (or consistently missing) shots too.

But it's more than that. When I say that a guy has a broken jumper it's generally because the movements are not only funky but aren't fluid and/or have too many moving parts that individually aren't consistent. A hitch is a big one. Inconsistent release point is a big one. Guide hand interference. Different mechanics when set vs being rushed.

I like watching textbook mechanics too. And like you I'll live with an ugly shot if it works.

Fortunately for Fox he doesn't have an ugly shot or terrible mechanics. I think he can be a consistent shooter in time.
Always thought his Airness had the best shot mechanics - arm extended perpendicular, 90 at the elbow and 180 wrist follow through.....
 

Kingster

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Peja had his knees pointed together, brought the ball over from the left side and realesed with his elbow pointing up. Ray Allen got almost no rotation on his shot.

The biggest thing is having that straight, consistent release point. For almost all great shooters, even those with ugly form, if you freeze frame as the ball is leaving their hands you see an almost textbook release.

This is true of Lonzo Ball too. His shot mechanics are compleletly ugly up until the release. Then it looks perfect.

What's the difference between a good shooter with bad form and a poor shooter with a broken shot? In the simplest sense it's just that one guy's shot goes in consistently and the other's doesn't. There's a feedback loop of confidence that goes along with consistently hitting (or consistently missing) shots too.

But it's more than that. When I say that a guy has a broken jumper it's generally because the movements are not only funky but aren't fluid and/or have too many moving parts that individually aren't consistent. A hitch is a big one. Inconsistent release point is a big one. Guide hand interference. Different mechanics when set vs being rushed.

I like watching textbook mechanics too. And like you I'll live with an ugly shot if it works.

Fortunately for Fox he doesn't have an ugly shot or terrible mechanics. I think he can be a consistent shooter in time.
What do you think of McLemore's shooting mechanics?
 
No, I will not be happy with Tatum I will be angry if we pick him, I want FOX I really bad want De'Aaron Fox, when was the last time that college star player and possible TOP 5-10 pick, said some good stuff about our Sacramento Kings? I can't remember tbh.

Fox is TOP 3 for me, he is in the same tier for me with Jackson, only Fultz for me is a tier above.

I'm on a Fox bandwagon, there is still plenty of room, join me... I will be disappointed if we don't get him.
 
McLemore has a beautiful shot. I've never seen a player with such textbook and consistent mechanics struggle as he has at times.

The only explanation to me is that it's all between the ears with Ben.
Ben has beautiful mechanics however it could be contended he gets too much elevation. The best shooters (like Curry and Buddy) tend to shoot more of a set shot. I often thought Ben jumped too high on his jumper. Doing so introduces another mechanical variable of timing your release to peak of your jump along with potential balance issues. When Ben started making more shots towards end of the year he was getting less elevation. He needs to keep up that approach with his new team next year. ;)
 
Not even the Warriors? That's my #1 at the moment. A lot of it is the fact that from when I started watching basketball in the early 90's until about 2012....I can't remember ever seeing a single Warriors fan around Sacramento. I don't remember any Dampier, Jamison, Richardson, Foyle etc jerseys.

But now when I'm out and about, there are far more Warriors fans than Kings fans. It's the bandwagon that bugs me. Plus Draymond is easy to not like (wish we had him) and Durant is now easy to root against since he's obviously a coat tail rider and not a trail blazer (not the team) himself. I have far more respect for Westbrook for trying to do it the right way.
The funny thing is if you even insinuate that they are bandwagons they get super pissed off. I was at the Kings Warriors game and was at Foundation right next to the arena getting a pregame drink and was sitting next to a Warrior fan. We had some good convo and then I joked about him recently becoming a fan b/c he had a KD Warrior jersey on and he went from being happy and chill to angry to the point that he started rattling off every historic Warrior moment that he claimed to remember and what he was doing at the time. I was just sitting there like, dude you're a bandwagon. It's fine, but stop acting like an upset child.
 
The funny thing is if you even insinuate that they are bandwagons they get super pissed off. I was at the Kings Warriors game and was at Foundation right next to the arena getting a pregame drink and was sitting next to a Warrior fan. We had some good convo and then I joked about him recently becoming a fan b/c he had a KD Warrior jersey on and he went from being happy and chill to angry to the point that he started rattling off every historic Warrior moment that he claimed to remember and what he was doing at the time. I was just sitting there like, dude you're a bandwagon. It's fine, but stop acting like an upset child.
It's a sensitive subject lol.
 

funkykingston

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Ben has beautiful mechanics however it could be contended he gets too much elevation. The best shooters (like Curry and Buddy) tend to shoot more of a set shot. I often thought Ben jumped too high on his jumper. Doing so introduces another mechanical variable of timing your release to peak of your jump along with potential balance issues. When Ben started making more shots towards end of the year he was getting less elevation. He needs to keep up that approach with his new team next year. ;)
It's a fine line. A lot of guys that shoot poorly don't get enough legs into their shot. It's part of De'Aaron Fox's issue and why gaining strength could help his jumper. But Ben does elevate a lot more than most great shooters.

Something I've noticed with Ben is that he was always making little tweaks. Very small adjustments to his shot. I think that ste
 
The more I think about the pick it has to be Smith if Fox isn't there. I figured we might not draft Smith because He doesn't have a great wingspan, but i got thinking about guards point guards that do well in the league that have smaller wingspans. I.T. and Steph Curry both come to mind....Knowing that, I think Smith would do just fine in a Kings uniform.
 
The funny thing is if you even insinuate that they are bandwagons they get super pissed off. I was at the Kings Warriors game and was at Foundation right next to the arena getting a pregame drink and was sitting next to a Warrior fan. We had some good convo and then I joked about him recently becoming a fan b/c he had a KD Warrior jersey on and he went from being happy and chill to angry to the point that he started rattling off every historic Warrior moment that he claimed to remember and what he was doing at the time. I was just sitting there like, dude you're a bandwagon. It's fine, but stop acting like an upset child.
I dont think anyone wants to be called a bandwagon fan - its a pejorative term. But I agree with you, one is inviting the comment if buying a Kevin Durant Warriors jersey of all things. Maybe not the savviest purchase. My opinion of Durant lowered a bit with his signing with the Warriors. Like I wrote earlier, I'm fairly neutral on the Warriors. My office-mate is a long-long time fan who grew up in San Fran and went to Berkeley. He likes discussing the Kings more than the Warriors probably because they're in more turmoil and flux than the Warriors.