[West Finals] #1 Golden State Warriors vs. #2 San Antonio Spurs

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Tetsujin

Tetsujin

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jpsls said:
And despite all that Finals experience he still can't get a HC gig on an NBA team. Says something doesn't it?
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These things work in cycles. If the Warriors win the finals with Mike Brown at the helm, don't be surprised to hear his name start coming back up in head coaching searches.
 
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jpsls

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Tetsujin said:
These things work in cycles. If the Warriors win the finals with Mike Brown at the helm, don't be surprised to hear his name start coming back up in head coaching searches.
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Probably because he will be the flavor of the month, but it still doesn't disprove the Warriors aren't impacted by "tough breaks." Do you think Brown is on the same level as Kerr in regards to coaching ability?
 
Mr. S£im Citrus

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jpsls said:
Playing without a coach who has led you to 2 Finals appearances in a row
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The success of the Golden State Warriors without Steve Kerr does not appear to support the thesis of that rising to the level of "unfortunate circumstances." I mean, it's an unfortunate circumstance for Steve Kerr, but the way the Warriors have played the past two seasons, they probably could have made the Finals this year with a lawn ornament as a head coach.

Or maybe even Kenny Natt.
 
Telemachus

Telemachus

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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
The success of the Golden State Warriors without Steve Kerr does not appear to support the thesis of that rising to the level of "unfortunate circumstances." I mean, it's an unfortunate circumstance for Steve Kerr, but the way the Warriors have played the past two seasons, they probably could have made the Finals this year with a lawn ornament as a head coach.

Or maybe even Kenny Natt.
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Maybe a lawn ornament, but Kenny Natt would've found a way to screw them up.
 
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jpsls

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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
The success of the Golden State Warriors without Steve Kerr does not appear to support the thesis of that rising to the level of "unfortunate circumstances." I mean, it's an unfortunate circumstance for Steve Kerr, but the way the Warriors have played the past two seasons, they probably could have made the Finals this year with a lawn ornament as a head coach.

Or maybe even Kenny Natt.
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What did the Warriors accomplish prior to Steve Kerr's tenure?

And the way the Warriors have played the past 2 years, they would have made it to the Finals with or without a healthy Leonard.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus

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Steve Kerr is not a genius, nor is he a candidate for "coach sainthood," just because he figured out that Draymond Green is better than David Lee. That is essentially the sum total of his contribution to the Warriors success.
 
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jpsls

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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Steve Kerr is not a genius, nor is he a candidate for "coach sainthood," just because he figured out that Draymond Green is better than David Lee. That is essentially the sum total of his contribution to the Warriors success.
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Completely wrong. They became much better of a passing team once Kerr arrived.

Now you may not like their offensive style, but Kerr implemented a system that suits the players perfectly.
 
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jpsls

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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
... Because they replaced David Lee with Draymond Green.
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Part of it, but not the complete story and not even close to it. Under Jackson, Warriors had used Curry primarily in iso-situations to break down the defense. Under Kerr, Warriors let other players initiate the offense and let Curry come off of screens from the weak side where he is deadly. There is no coach that can simply exchange 2 players and tell them "go win a title while I sit on the bench doing nothing." Being a great coach isn't merely about the X's and O's. It;s about cultivating a locker room environment where players are willing to put their egos aside and assume roles they normally wouldn't for the sake of the team.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus

Mr. S£im Citrus

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I beg to differ, but it doesn't matter, either way. Even if I were to stipulate that Kerr deserves credit for Golden State's success (and I don't), whatever Kerr may have done for them during the 2014-15 season has proven to be self-sustaining at this point. His loss may have qualified as an "unfortunate circumstance" three years ago, but it didn't last year, and it doesn't now, and their record is the proof.

In 2016-17, Draymond Green is ostensibly the head coach of the Golden State Warriors.
 
VF21

VF21

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Hrm. East semi-final thread derailed to become argument about IT.

Now this thread is heading in a similar direction with a narrow debate about Steve Kerr?

...sigh...

No offense, guys, but maybe you two just need to get a room and duke it out.
 
kingsboi

kingsboi

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#46
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VF21 said:
Hrm. East semi-final thread derailed to become argument about IT.

Now this thread is heading in a similar direction with a narrow debate about Steve Kerr?

...sigh...

No offense, guys, but maybe you two just need to get a room and duke it out.
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to their credit, the NBA playoffs haven't exactly been the most exciting sans the Wizards/Celtics series.
 
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