Vlade will step down if Kings are not better off in 2 years!

Here is an article that puts Vlade's job on the line with the DMC trade and clarifies the better offer he had!

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2017/2/...ins-trade-vlade-divac-sacramento-kings-future

Vlade also clarifies his better offer, which was 2 first round picks from N.O., which was changed to a second round pick, once DMC agent scared off potential suitors!

Note: This has been discussed in other threads, but I honestly don't have the heart to take the time to pull the comments over to this thread.

I don't care what Vlade does in two years. I care what he did about a week ago.

I was tempted to start a thread on this yesterday. We get more clarity about why and how this move was made. Doesn't make it the best move but the quote I took away the most was he no longer wanted to be a treadmill team because that's what the team was with Cousins. Time will tell to see how the Kings fared with this deal but one thing was certain, the Kings simply didn't have enough assets around Boogie to make this team a legit playoff contender in the present or in the future so I can understand the thinking here. Vlade will go down swinging and how many lottery picks the Kings hit on will determine how quickly this rebuilding phase goes.

That's great. I'm thinking Vlade is a symptom of a larger problem and not sure him leaving solves anything.

Unfortunately, when I take off the Vlade fan glasses, I have to think you're right.

Enough beating around the bush, Vivek should just fire both Vlade and Joerger so that he can be the first owner/GM/coach ever!

We'll field a team of Curry 3.0 and Klay 3.0 shooting guards and play 4 on 5 defense, it'll be awesome.

*shakas*

This thing is not going to turn around in 2 years. It will take at least 5 and that is if they do everything right. Divac is in it for the pay cheque and Vivek is there to relive his fettish for the Golden State. He will try to mimic what they do, you just wait and watch. It will be a monumental failure after failure.

If Vlade had any self respect he would have quit when it became apparent that Boogie hammered a final nail into his Sacramento coffin when he flipped a bird at GSW fan and said something like "**** the Golden Sate!" That was the straw that broke camel's back. I am sure that other competitive franchise players have not done things much worse than that?

Are you serious about all this?

Well, just the status quo for Kings' fan...move along, folks.

That it was a lower offer from the same team makes it that much worse of a negotiation! sheesh

NOLA: "I'll offer $100"
Vlade: No not enough
NOLA: "Ok, we'll offer $70"
Vlade: I'll take it

Does anybody think we would make the playoffs. Maybe. But recent history suggests we would have been disappointed by some timely losses. Then What? We give Cousins a max deal?

My only complaint is they COULDN'T make a change sooner.

Absolutely!

So we would have been disappointed by some "timely losses" but we're gonna hit the jackpot with our draft picks? Yeah, okay...

Does anyone think he will even last 2 more years under Vivek?

Well, the next GM will want his own coach, so Joeger effectively has 2 years as well. I'm sure he appreciates that, Vlade.

Self imposed deadline in 2 years? He's toast then. We are going to be young and our young guys will not even be as good as the TWolves talent....who can't win.

Another season over by the all Star break. This one self inflicted.

What's another 5 years of hoping when we've been through 10 years of hell ?

With management like this we'll get close and pee it all away again no doubt.

Nola: "I'll offer $1 for that coke"
Vlade: "Let me be honest and transparent with the agent for my franchise guy before I do this - seems like the right thing to do"
Agent: "TF Vlade??!!! What about my 10% of $30M??? Hey Nola... and hey rest of the league... I pissed in that coke and I'll do it again if you buy it"
Nola: "wow - a pissed in coke... well I'll offer .75 then. Take it or leave it. Otherwise I'll buy a not pissed in club soda from Philly"
Vlade: "sigh... done"

What scares me about this comment is the fact that it lends itself to him not actually committing to rebuild. I say...

50% chance he trades away a young player who turns out to be good... for a roleplaying veteran to try and improve the team within 2 years.

40% chance he goes halfway with young players and veterans so we wind up stuck in limbo, picking around 10-12 next year.

10% chance he makes good picks in the draft, allows them to develop and turns this into a team with some sort of direction in 2 years.

The worst possible thing we can do at this point is sacrifice the future for a possible grab at the 8th seed in a couple years. It's just going to lead to years and years of mediocrity of the likes of which we've already seen. I don't doubt that Vlade will do his best to try and make sure we're at least somewhat better in 2 years, even if it means passing up on one of these guys in the draft who will no doubt end up being a star in this league. Vlade's eggs are going to be in the 2017 draft, so he better not screw it up by trying to win now when the rebuild has just begun.

#21 is proving more, with each passing day, that he is not qualified for the position our incompetent owner gifted to him. Just when you think it can't get much worse, it gets a lot worse.

Instead of quitting 2 years from now, it would have been so much better had he quit 2 weeks ago. Going forward, he should forever be known as "Hurricane Vlade". He blew through town, did major and irreparable damage then moved on.

WT actual F?!?

I am sick to death of this narrative, that the Kings tried for years to put talent around Boogie and make a run for the playoffs.

It's an out-right LIE, proven false by history.
For years, the FO deliberately tanked to get draft picks.
Then, all of TWO YEARS AGO, they finally made head-way and put the league on notice and looked to be headed to the playoffs in a rocket.... and then Vivek sabotaged it by firing Malone.
They wasted that year AND THE NEXT by hiring a washed-up, over-the-hill snake in the grass who didn't want Demarcus on the team from the get-go. Oh yeah, the FO completely ignored their star Demarcus telling them exactly that before the hire.
Seriously, the franchise would have been better off if they had simply let Demarcus make all the basketball decisions the last two years.
I'm not kidding in the slightest.

Then, with the Kings playing competitive basketball (even with a decimated roster!) for (almost) the first time in 10 years, they choose to sabotage the season AGAIN when they were 1 game out of playoffs with easily-winnable games coming up, and players about to get healthy again.

It enrages me that the narrative the fanbase will remember is that "The Kings would never have won with Demarcus. They tried for years and it just wasn;t going to work out."
Yeah, because they kept sabotaging Demarcus' team, then traded him right as they were about to make it!
Then, once they made the playoffs and started getting attention for the right reasons, better players might just want to start joining the team.

How hard is it to remember what actually went on here with this team?
I guess it's really damn hard for people to remember things right when they are constantly lied to and manipulated by serial slanderer Napear for >20 hours a week, year-in year-out.

oh please. "Better position" means what exactly? its a cop out. Position to do what?

How bout we start winning or u get the hell outta here?

Well his job is quite safe then.
It is impossible not to be better of in two years than now.
On the other hand, impossibility is defied often in Kings land.

vivek'd.

impulsive vivek will can him b4 then

You aren't really looking at the bigger picture here. Yes, the Kings were competitive in almost every game this season. Yes, I wanted the team to sign him to a long term extension and at the very least wait until the 2019 off season to ship him out if things didn't work out. Unfortunately, all we can do now is look at it from Vlade's perspective. There is no use in crying and bickering over what happened because what's done is done and I'm trying to understand why and how this move was made. Maybe it's for my own sanity.

You are attacking me as if I am on board with this trade or something. That's not right on your part. Since the front office made such a impatient and vast decision to ship him out, the antics on and off the court were adding up and Vlade and company didn't want to deal with it anymore. Before the trade, the Kings were 9 games under .500 in a pitiful Western Conference. The Kings weren't winning with Cousins throughout the years because what this team did before Vlade and Cantella arrived was miss on draft pick after draft pick that could of been useful and impactful complimentary pieces next to our cornerstone. Just so happens they were all busts or out of the league and posters were saying last year and the year prior that those moves would hold the franchise back even longer, and it showed.

Holding out hope that a quality free agent MIGHT want to join the team is wishful thinking. What free agent out there in the summer of 2017 or the summer of 2018 do you honestly see would sign with this team? I mean look at it realistically for a minute. What incentive does a free agent in his prime have to sign with Sacramento, who is never considered a big draw for free agents in the first place over the 30 years, have over other teams? Think about this, how many players really want to play with Boogie? Sure, he gets praised around the league from all sorts of all-stars but that doesn't mean they necessarily are willing to come and play with him unless your name is Eric Bledsoe and John Wall and I'd put some money on it that neither one would come here, unless the Kings would trade for Bledsoe. That said, the limited amount of assets the Kings had with a whole bunch of expiring veteran contract expiring contracts really put the Kings in a tough situation as far as winning. Those veterans were only temporary stop gap solutions, not for the long term outlook of this team.

What's going to be very telling moving forward is seeing how the Pelicans fare with Cousins on the team and how much success they have. The front office here has let Boogie down, let's see if the same comes to fruition in Nola. Either way, the rebuilding process will take some time and the Kings need some luck on their side and we know how that usually turns out for them.

kingsboi, I just took your post as a launching point - I didn't mean to appear to be attacking you by happening to quote your post.

And yes, I believe that once the Kings FO got out of their own damn way and Boogie & Co. got the Kings to the playoffs this year despite everything Vivek has done since "saving the team" (again a narrative I'm sick of hearing - it's more like he exploited what others had done and took control of something he wasn't qualified for monetarily, personality, or experience-wise)... then players would want to start coming here more.

You ask why would they have come here, over 30 other teams?
Easy - after a (hypothetical) first-round playoff that showcased Demarcus playing bully-ball vs the Warriors, with helpers raining down some 3's making the style of play seem legitimate, the Kings would have been the only team with a Demarcus, and those free agents have to sign somewhere....

But no - we'll never find out what could have happened, because 15% Vivek cheapened out and chickened out and decided it was better to get very little in return for Boogie, again destroying KF's hopes and dreams.

This won't be the last time he does this. We as a fanbase are going to get tough skin and eventually become numb to his meddling IMO. It's not going to stop as long as he is here.