Will Rudy still opt out?

#2
On a side note, ESPN brought up an interesting question, will Rudy still opt out this summer after this injury? Will he be ready by November?
At this very moment, I think he opts-in. Rudy is 30, and just suffered and Achilles injury. That injury is worse than any ACL/MCL tears. I don't see him ever becoming the same player again. I feel awful for Rudy. I hope my speculation is 100% wrong.
 
#3
At this very moment, I think he opts-in. Rudy is 30, and just suffered and Achilles injury. That injury is worse than any ACL/MCL tears. I don't see him ever becoming the same player again. I feel awful for Rudy. I hope my speculation is 100% wrong.
If Gay does return next year and can be reasonably productive, maybe he could be willing to take a 6th man role.
 
#5
Normal recovery from devastating Achilles 12 months minimum. That's why highly unlikely to play until next year - 2018. No reason for him to risk further injury if not sidelined all next season in rehab. Rudy Gay, good guy is finished in Sac (possibly NBA career curtains) unless something changes with desire all along to leave. Bad news situation to say the least for Kings and Rudy.
 

bajaden

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#6
At this very moment, I think he opts-in. Rudy is 30, and just suffered and Achilles injury. That injury is worse than any ACL/MCL tears. I don't see him ever becoming the same player again. I feel awful for Rudy. I hope my speculation is 100% wrong.
Sadly for Rudy, and for us, your probably right. That kind of injury takes at least a year, if not more in some cases to recover from. I'll be shocked if he opts out now, but it's likely he won't play for us again either. Tough injury to recover from and the older you are, the tougher it is. Tough break for Rudy, and for the Kings. No deadline trade now.
 
#8
Rudy Gay just lost his career as an impact NBA player.

The Kings just lost ~ $21 million dollars (1/2 of this year's salary + next year's salary).

This hurts the team, the franchise, and the fans.
And this isn't exactly an organization that had much chance of turning it around as it was.
$21 million down the drain is not something this team could afford.
This may well be the final nail in this team's coffin, and it is such a set-back that it may even cause the franchise to second-guess the massive extension they were about to offer Demarcus.
 

SLAB

Hall of Famer
#9
Woj noted on Twitter Wes Matthews tore his Achilles and signed a 70 million dollar deal that next summer.

So... We'll see.
 
#11
Unless he really hates being in sac, Rudy will opt in, maybe negotiate a buy out.
A low effort player who relies on athleticism... I wish him a speedy recovery
 
#12
It's been known that Rudy Gay doesn't want to be here in Sacramento, so there's still a chance that he might still opt out if he recovers nicely from this injury. NBA free agency doesn't start til July, which is 6 months away.
 
#13
At Gay's stage of career, the injury does not bode well. We had a once-collegiate player at our office give up basketball completely due to an Achilles rupture, a wicked and devastating injury. He described to me he was back-peddling hard and just all of the sudden, "Pop!"
 
#16
Rudy Gay just lost his career as an impact NBA player.

The Kings just lost ~ $21 million dollars (1/2 of this year's salary + next year's salary).

This hurts the team, the franchise, and the fans.
And this isn't exactly an organization that had much chance of turning it around as it was.
$21 million down the drain is not something this team could afford.
This may well be the final nail in this team's coffin, and it is such a set-back that it may even cause the franchise to second-guess the massive extension they were about to offer Demarcus.
Vlade might opt out
 
#17
I am devastated right now. Don't get me wrong, I feel terrible for Rudy but this ****s us so bad moving forward.

1. We don't have him for the foreseeable future to help with a playoff run
2. We now can't trade him, even if for pennies on the dollar to get something in return for what was an expiring contract
3. We now no longer have an expiring contract and we will have 14.5 Million of dead salary on the books because even if he is ready to play by early next season (highly doubt it) he will not be effective at all since so much of his game requires lift for his shot.
4. If we really start to slide, we now have a legitimate chance of swapping picks with Phili, which even if it's 6-8 that sucks.
5. We still owe Philadelphia a pick in 2018 or 19 (I cannot remember)


I really hope Ken Cantenella can help Vlade use some of those uniquely created contracts to get us something for the next year.


AND we still can't trade cousins and tank because of the Phili trade. So we still are resigning Cousins to that massive extension with less money to build around him. I see 28-35 wins for the next 3-5 years unless the front office can pull a few rabbits out of their asses.
 
#18
Ok I'm gonna post what I put in the game thread to try to give folks a possible different way of looking at this bad news.

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Yes, he will be opting in at this point and that is exactly what guaranteed contracts are for.

However let's not be all doom and gloom about this. I am assuming the worst about the injury, but I am not assuming the worst possible outcome for the Kings. It will hurt the cap room next year.

There are some positives. First, we may actually get better without Rudy. Much as I love the guy. My eye test tells me it just wasn't working out. We are still very much in the hunt for 8th seed.

This accelerates the team developing chemistry without Rudy, and opens room to play some younger players and guys we hope to keep around. If, like Joerger said, the first half was about using analytics to see who we wanted to go forward with, we can be sure Rudy did not make that cut. We can also be sure other guys did. We will now be playing those other guys.

This is unfortunate, and I feel for Rudy, but this is likely the last time we see him in a Kings uni. I expect we trade his expiring deal next year. Which is another plus. A 14mil expiring contract is nothing to sneeze at. To be honest, and this may sound harsh, but we may be able to get more out of him as an expiring contract than before the injury, especially as a guy that probably won't be expecting a lot of minutes next year. We obviously had been trying with no luck.

Cheer up all. The sky is not falling. Only lots of rain.

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I hope this is helpful.
 
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#19
Wes was also 28, Rudy is 30. I see no reason that he wouldnt opt in and have some security while he rehabs. Unless a team makes a verbal agreement that they will give him a contract.
 

VF21

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#20
...This may well be the final nail in this team's coffin, and it is such a set-back that it may even cause the franchise to second-guess the massive extension they were about to offer Demarcus.
I think Rudy's injury may have actually done just the opposite. Guess we'll have to wait and see, won't we?
 

VF21

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#21
Wes was also 28, Rudy is 30. I see no reason that he wouldnt opt in and have some security while he rehabs. Unless a team makes a verbal agreement that they will give him a contract.
You know what they always say - verbal contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on. I seriously doubt if Rudy or his agent are going to risk his future on a verbal agreement.
 
#22
Rudy Gay just lost his career as an impact NBA player.

The Kings just lost ~ $21 million dollars (1/2 of this year's salary + next year's salary).

This hurts the team, the franchise, and the fans.
And this isn't exactly an organization that had much chance of turning it around as it was.
$21 million down the drain is not something this team could afford.
This may well be the final nail in this team's coffin, and it is such a set-back that it may even cause the franchise to second-guess the massive extension they were about to offer Demarcus.

There is a small amount of over reacting going on here.
 
#24
Whether Gay ever steps foot on the court again for the Kings, if he opts in, his contract will become a big expiring contract next summer and very tradable.

We can still trade that at the February 2018 trade deadline to a team in salary dump mode to pick up an asset.
 
#25
Whether Gay ever steps foot on the court again for the Kings, if he opts in, his contract will become a big expiring contract next summer and very tradable.

We can still trade that at the February 2018 trade deadline to a team in salary dump mode to pick up an asset.
as the salary cap has skyrocketed and teams have had to throw crazy money around just to hit the salary floor, sizable expiring contracts have lost most of their value as trade assets.
 

dude12

Hall of Famer
#26
as the salary cap has skyrocketed and teams have had to throw crazy money around just to hit the salary floor, sizable expiring contracts have lost most of their value as trade assets.
You sure about that....word out of Minnesota is they would like to pair up Rubio with a guy like Shabazz, Payne or one other and would like an expiring among the package.
 

Capt. Factorial

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#27
I can actually see this making DMC want to sign that extension ASAP, instead of waiting until next summer to sign the extension.
He has to wait until the summer. That ultra-super-max* extension isn't available until then.

*to use the technical term
 
#28
You sure about that....word out of Minnesota is they would like to pair up Rubio with a guy like Shabazz, Payne or one other and would like an expiring among the package.
that's sort of what i mean by "lost most of their value." the above package is... not great. i was never among ricky rubio's biggest fans when he was drafted by minnesota, but his value across the league has plummeted as the game has evolved in the last half-decade. ball dominant PG's who monopolize a team's assist numbers are no longer much of a prize in a contemporary nba landscape where team-wide ball movement is so important. that value drops even further when said PG can't shoot worth a damn. rubio is slightly more valuable than rajon rondo on the court in 2017, because rubio's still an above-average defender at the position. but his injury history is enough to square the two of them, in my mind. i would not trade for rubio at this point, especially right after the rajon rondo experiment flamed out in sacramento.