Kings trade Tyrese and Buddy for Sabonis and Holiday and Lamb

And that's the point, isn't it? The asset was preserved for another move. Monte can trade the pick before the deadline. He can package it as part of a larger deal with a very movable piece like Barnes. Or he can make his pick on draft day and go home. No matter how you'd slice it, Sabonis did not cost the Kings their future flexibility.
The Chaf Ford rumor was Mitchell and a first for Sabonis. Plus filler on both sides. I would’ve been okay with that trade. But doing so would’ve likely given up the ability to get Grant (or someone like him). 80% chance he goes after Grant in the next few days.
 
I hope we go after Washington first but it makes sense that Grant who has long been a target winds up being the guy. But I also wonder if now that Sabonis is secured we have some leverage too. I know Atlanta f'd us last year but I'd still pursue Collins too.
As Twslam has been pushing for, think Washington can be had for Holmes.
 

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The Chaf Ford rumor was Mitchell and a first for Sabonis. Plus filler on both sides. I would’ve been okay with that trade. But doing so would’ve likely given up the ability to get Grant (or someone like him). 80% chance he goes after Grant in the next few days.
No way salaries would have worked out with that. I like the grant idea. And Collins.

Bagley and holmes for grant
Barnes and our 1st for Collins
 
As just mentioned, it could mean that:
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Work PC so it may be some sort of blocking by the security policy or some firefox security add but I can access twitter in the browser without any issues its just those tweets for some reason
 
These are all legitimate questions but how in the world are they ever going to get started on building anything without making a move first? A team 15 games below .500 ain't gonna fix all of these things with one trade. Getting a greater young talent just doesn't feel like a loss to me, period. Sabonis is a solid playmayer and passer himself, btw. Idk .. i just don't see how keeping Haliburton was going to greatly improve the future if everyone claims our other assets are so scarce. So, we keep Tyrese and all the other guys people claim no one wants? What was that going to do?
You trade, Monta Ellis, but you keep Steph Curry.
You trade, DeAaron Fox, but you keep Tyrese Haliburton.
"Hey remember when that fan threw up courtside? Those were the days." Oh Well.
 
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You trade, Monta Ellis, but you keep Steph Curry.
You trade, DeAaron Fox, but you keep Tyrese Haliburton.
"Hey remember when that fan threw up courtside? Those were the days." Oh Well.
So now Haliburton is Steph Curry?

I can't say enough good things about him but really?
 

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Does Monte have any connections to Sam Cassell he seems like the current hot prospect from the assistant ranks and he isn't royalty here which I guess is good if we later decide we need to hate him.
 
What's desperate about it? I keep seeing that word used, and it's sooooo weird. Again, 2x all-star. Advanced stats darling. 25 years old. No future firsts outgoing. No draft capital given up period. With the bonus of dumping Buddy's contract. All at the cost of a single long-term asset. It sucks to see Haliburton walking out the door, but this is not what a desperation play to save one's job looks like.
Poor fit with the other players, UFA in two years. This is a win now move or else.
 
If tyreke were traded in his sophomore year, our GM would have been stoned to death on the forum. (I am old enough on this forum to remember the "would you trade evans for wade?" poll. lol.)
We tend to think about growth as something linear (or even exponential.). Do not look for this growth in sports, because you won't find it.
if TH becomes an all-star this would be considered a miserable move. but most "young promising stars" do not. Spoiling the party - It is impossible to know who won the trade and only time will tell as a factor of TH's evolution.
Sabonis is actually safer. we know exactly what we are getting. (edit: this doesn't mean i'm for this trade)
 

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Poor fit with the other players, UFA in two years. This is a win now move or else.
this team was a poor fit all around. It definitely accelerates the timetable we're on but arguably if a few more dominoes fall we might actually have 5 starting caliber players by Thursday.
 
Holliday's averaging 11 points on 38% shooting from three and is a solid wing defender. I know that's not mind-blowing or anything but he finally gives us the wing depth we've been begging for for two or three years.
yeah why I think for this to work Holiday has to start at the 3