Kings trade rumor SZN 2023-2024 edition!

I like BI, but not a fan of his fit with Fox and Sabonis. I’d be interested in getting a guy like Naji Marshall using the (partial?) MLE. Gives the team a much needed dog, plays big, can do a little of everything.

Ingram is an all star level player, plays on the wing, and can score on his own. Perfect fit. If Monte wants a player like Marshall he should be gettable with or without Ingram. This Kings team doesn't look to be a Naji Marshall away from jack squat unfortunately although he might help, but there are plenty of MLE options like Oubre who I think would be an even better target. It will take talent to get over the hump if the West stays this competitive.

Ingram is an all star level player, plays on the wing, and can score on his own. Perfect fit. If Monte wants a player like Marshall he should be gettable with or without Ingram. This Kings team doesn't look to be a Naji Marshall away from jack squat unfortunately although he might help, but there are plenty of MLE options like Oubre who I think would be an even better target. It will take talent to get over the hump if the West stays this competitive.

I just don't see that fire and desire in Ingram. This team needs a jolt of leadership, toughness and grit. Brandon gets by with height and skill. There is better fruit to pluck from the forward tree.

I understand what you’re saying, but who’s a better option that’s available? BI isn’t perfect, but he checks a lot of boxes for the Kings. Especially if we lose Monk.

It’s easy to sit around and wait for a better fit, but that’s what we did last season by “running it back” and we ended up missing the playoffs entirely. What “fruit” would you REALISTICALLY rather pluck?

Miles Bridges

Leadership and miles bridges in the same sentence certainly is a choice

Leadership and miles bridges in the same sentence certainly is a choice

I just don't see that fire and desire in Ingram. This team needs a jolt of leadership, toughness and grit. Brandon gets by with height and skill. There is better fruit to pluck from the forward tree.

Miles Bridges

that can come from someone else

Another guy I’d consider trading for is Corey Kispert. The Wizards were one of my league pass teams for some reason this year and he really impressed me. He had his best season last year, is only 25 and you would have his rights going into restricted free agency. He competes hard, is an elite shooter and added to his game.

What.

You said you want someone with leadership, fire and Grit. You said BI doesn't have those qualities.

When asked who you'd take instead, you said Miles Bridges.

The logical leap here is you think Miles Bridges possess those qualities, since he's your counter to why you wouldn't want BI.

No?

Ingram has faults no doubt, but I think this team is what it is based on Fox and Domas in all facets so as such, it is what it is. IMO all Monte can do is put as much talent around them as possible and see how it shakes out. As good as it sounds in theory, no, Iman Shumpert types aren't your difference. Look at the playoffs year after year, superstar talent and your depth in that regard is the difference. Now a Shumpert type can be that extra little kick in the locker room but once the rubber meets the road it won't mean much. If you can find that type of player that is both a franchise player and has all those traits you mentioned and put the right talent around them you probably have a dynasty. It's very rare though. Monte doesn't have time to set his bar so high anymore trade wise and option wise. **** or get off the pot. Is the team topped out as is? Maybe not, but Monte better not ignore his only proven results so far and I don't think he will.

not at all. One player doesn't have to provide all three characteristics. Miles can provide two of them and then another player can be attained to provide the leadership aspect.

I hear he leads with his left

I don't know that any star type of talent is available to be had right now and if it is, Monte would have to gut his roster and future assets for that player. Fox and Sabonis are going to have a limited ceiling so the Kings are hoping that Murray eventually provides that 20+PPG trajectory. In the meantime, Kings two best players need to have different mentalities going into next season, Fox needs to chuck less threes and work in his strong areas and Sabonis needs to take more shots. The efficiency is nice to look at and all the triple doubles but if it doesn't get you into the postseason or further, all its good for is for aesthetics and fan duel participants.

13/Sasha/Jones for Thybulle and Murray.

Big overpay for the Kings. Big.

Okay I figured so what makes it "fair"?

BI was better than Miles Bridges in almost every metric you can look at. His only advantage was rebounding, and that likely had more to do with the make up of the teams.

For what player, the GOAT type or a an Ingram type? We'll see but if a Grant, or even a LaVine can be had at an affordable price it's worth it IMO. Monte stood pat this summer, stood pat at the deadline, now he's got all the information he needs as to how it worked. Short answer? It didn't if they were truly thinking "contention" as they talked prior to the season. Monte's got to improve the roster somehow because those other teams did theirs and year over year the bar was clearly raised. Monte also has to think about Murray as an addition, but not the path. Even if Murray gets to be a 20 ppg scorer where does that push the team? They are pretty far from the upper rung so it's better to hope Murray gets there AND you add on top of it. That's probably what it will take to even sniff contention at this point and even if it isn't, that's the way Monte should approach it. Shoot for the moon, nothing lower.

The other option is, as a small market team, to continue to keep those draft picks and maybe get some luck on your side and find an all-star type of talent in the teens where the Kings will be picking.

I am wondering about Middleton now the bucks is out.

Talent evaluation and good drafting for GMs of small market teams is essential for success. We are not going to be able to lure big name free agents and would have to mortgage the future to try and trade for a big name (who may not even stay after their contract expires).

Monte has shown he can make quality draft picks in the lottery. I'm hoping he keeps the pick and drafts a potential starter in this years draft, instead of trading it. I think there will be starter level talent available at #13 and I trust Monte to make a good pick. Monte tends to draft more mature players that have proven to have NBA level skills (whether it be defense, passing, shooting or scoring).

I wouldn't be surprised if Monte plucks someone that can be a rotation player next season with #13 pick. Someone like Dalton Knecht, Kyle Flipowski, Zach Edey, or Tristan da Silva seem like Monte's type of plug and play draft picks he likes to take. I think any of these guys can be quality rotation players in the NBA